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The Ignorant vs Arsene Wenger

Part 2 of a guest post by Red Henry. Continues from Part 1.

Following the logic of the ignorant can be a dangerous thing.

It is psychologically proven that when the brain cannot comprehend what’s happening and you don’t understand what’s going on, you panic. Fear creeps in.

What is this?
How does it work?
I don’t understand…..
The outcome?…Frustration.

Not everyone who watches football, knows football.

Not everyone who plays football becomes manager afterwards, or owner, or even pundit.

If they did really know they would be trying to make a living through football instead of what they actually do.

The sport has evolved to a status beyond the dreams of even the biggest opportunists in world business. The game is not longer a game, it’s a global industry. It is subject to the same rules that apply to every other industries.. Supply -Demand Cycles, Vat, Income, Expenses, Corporate Structures, ISO……and a whole lot of other bullshit which frankly has nothing to do with watching Thierry curling it in the top corner of the goal frame.

Or so we think…..

Arsenal, lacked in this department. We might well have been a famous English football club but in terms of a company in the world football industry, the club was a relatively small player and nowhere near the traditional names of Europe. David Dein was instrumental in his efforts to raise the image of the premier league and consequently Arsenal’s but the real job in terms of the company being run efficiently, was to a large extent, of Wenger’s making. We have to recognise that had it not been for Wenger’s eye for a good bargain, Arsenal would struggle to make any profits, even in his early days. We hear a lot about the marketing department and this and that but again to attract sponsors you need not only a winning team but also a healthy organisation that wont expose the sponsor.

It is not Wenger’s fault that Arsenal as a football company was a bit behind in certain company assets such as infrastructure, i.e stadium and training ground and medical facilities.

It is not Wenger’s fault that Arsenal was never a  huge football power or a money making club that could use its “marketing” appeal like a Madrid, United .Munich or  Milan.

It is not Wenger’s fault that Liverpool has won 5 in Europe and is considered the only English club that can walk shoulder to shoulder with the continents biggest most historical clubs. (sadly ManU has joined that elite to an extent , but they weren’t unknown, they had a glamorous..history..Busby Babes..etc).

To all those stupid people who accuse Wenger for taking the club backwards, I ask them

“What the previous managerial regimes did, to be able to expand the club to the extent where it could launched to a whole new level and era?”

Some will rush to answer that it wasn’t only Wenger, that others helped too, like Dein and Friar and Fiszman. To them i reply that they didn’t get the question, for it was Wenger’s outrageous success that gave all of them the belief and the spirit (plus time and opportunity and finance) to go with their plans.

Plus they had the most qualified manager to supervise it all.

Using the early, unprecedented, success, the people who own the club decided that now was the time for the next level.  That it was the right moment to build a new and bigger ground to increase revenue and to upgrade all the training and medical facilities. Making the club a pioneer when it comes to the modern and efficient organisation of a football club from top to bottom, in all departments.

The quality and class in which all this left people around the world amazed.

The only people who complain however, are those who are going to benefit from this in the long run…the fans. 

It is hard to convince the fans that in a period of infrastructure investment that trophies are the priority. They are clearly not. But this is also a company, building its new venue and naturally they don’t want to shoot themselves on the foot coming out telling everyone ” we are skint for the next twenty years so forget  any titles”. How many would pay for such a  product in this industry?

Hence the diplomatic attitude and stance form manager and club. The aims will always be high. That’s what we show to the outside, that’s what we expect from players, that’s what we educate.

However personally and internally the company has objectives, mainly financial. So let’s not pretend that we don’t see how the manager is trying to balance the expectations of fans with  the objectives/targets set out by the company.

He could easily call the fans “stupid”  for their expectations or even “blind” (since they can’t see how that jewel of a stadium would obviously mean a sacrifice in the title statistic for a while.)

He could have insulted our intelligence, but he didn’t.

He could even have told the board to F off and that he won’t tolerate a drop in standards or spending power but he didn’t.

He could have also laughed at the board for asking him to beat Drogba (27 y.o) while he had to play with Theo (17 y.o) and Cesc (20 y.o).

He could have joined Dein when he sold for 75 million to Red & White, he didn’t.

Some other huge clubs from Europe were asking for his signature, he didn’t even bother entertaining them.

These actions show a professional of enormous loyalty .

As fans we should be looking at giving back even 10% of that loyalty and before anyone starts talking rubbish about his salary, personally I would give him double what he is on if he managed to slice my mortgage repayment period in half.  Only the stupid would dare abuse or wish out the one person whose work and activities produce nothing but positives for the club in this mad industry.

If trophies are your only measure of Arsenal, then I wonder why you choose this club? 13 champion titles in 125 years of history. that’s roughly one per decade.

Wenger won three in his first decade so even if you follow this logic…Wenger still has credit for another two decades.

He has just spent one on solidifying Arsenal’s foundations for another century.

So there is another one to go before anyone can complain to him about.

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59 comments on “The Ignorant vs Arsene Wenger

  1. Good stuff, Red Henry. Passive ignorance has always been the hallmark of football. Disturbingly though as a club we seem to be suffering from active ignorance lead by people who years ago would have been tarred and feathered.

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  2. Lovely stuff.
    I fear it would fall on deaf ears if read by those it is aimed at.
    Fortunately they don’t come here .So bollocks to them anyway/

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  3. Just like to say that I am very happy that Aaron Ramsey has found his way back to form. Very pleased for the young man.

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  4. Really well written, have been arguing For Wenger on other blogs for a long time. Wish I had ammunition like this before. The only complaint I ever had about Wenger was the “I never saw it syndrome” and unless I am mistaken he seems to have been cured

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  5. I fear you may have trod in some media shit there, Bob.

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  6. Nice one RH – you make many tremendous points and your sense of perspective can hardly be challenged.

    The scale of the Wenger miracle is so great that many simply can not comprehend it.

    The failure to see the wood for the trees is nothing new of course but given that this is supposed to be the Age of Information, there is a certain irony that so many are capable of filtering out the background detail to the extent they clearly do so.

    Great piece yesterday George; on a par with the Spuds result, I’d say!

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  7. Bob – truth is, one of the worst seats in any stadium is the one in which the manager sits. Sure, you’re close to the sidelines – on one side – but unlike the majority of fans who are looking over the players, there’s no way any manager can see through a crowd of players.

    The ‘cure’ of which you speak is most likely AW growing bored with the disrespect shown by some when he merely speaks the truth.

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  8. That’s right Andrew,If the incident was at the other side of the pitch ,and he answered a question about it before seeing a replay,he would be winging it.Like others do.
    Most managers just trot out a standard defence for their own player or team.

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  9. muahahah tottenham…. and they still got chelsea city everton..hehehe..

    thankfully george we will have two weeks without “debates” about wenger’s managerial abilities…poor haters,,how will they cope?

    we love you arsenal we do..la la la..

    too drunk actually i will go back to sofa/bed and continue from there…

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  10. ha frank..tarred and feathered alright…and a lot of kicks !

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  11. Brilliantly said!

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  12. After he won coach of the year at the bbc sports personality of the year awards, following the magnificent achievements of the invincible season,whilst presenting the award Gary Lineker made a cheap remark about “I did not see it”- mistimed, misplaced and disrespectful,Arsene of course acted with grace and just smiled softly,the difference in class in the 2 men distance wise has just reminded me that the London marathons on in a few weeks,Lineker representing the media and proving the mother of all idiots is always pregnant,and arsene? Well he’s just good ain’t he?

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  13. Absolutely right Red Henry about Arsenal, the incipient colossus. Compare the achievements of the past 8 years to the murky future of two of our immediate rivals.

    Tottenham: Despite the delusions of a north London power shift on the playing field, White Hart Lane is a 36,000 anachronism with plans for a new stadium stuck in paper-talk while they desperately seek consistent qualification in the Champions League to generate the kind of revenue to help finance such a huge undertaking. UCL or not, it is arguable they will have to cash-in on Bale at the end of season.

    Liverpool: Despite their 5 European trophies and 18 league titles, Liverpool plays in an aging, 45,000 seater and have scrapped plans for a new stadium mainly because it is unaffordable. The chosen alternative is the expansion of Anfield but I doubt if this will soon become a reality given that John Henry is skint. His hedge fund is shut down and the huge debts incurred by his Fenway Group to both acquire Liverpool and to finance the enormous transfer expenses incurred by Daglish and Rodgers are an enormous drain..

    The financial plight of of both these clubs should make fans give ginormous credit to Wenger for keeping the club profitable and competitive for 16 straight years despite the stadium debt and now having to compete with 3 PSGs. As George said, I doubt any this will resonate with those who mindlessly disparage Wenger.

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  14. I can understand how people could read today’s post and not agree.
    But how can they not understand it?
    Asking questions like “what other manager of a top club would be allowed to fail for 5 years”
    Can these fuckwits even read?

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  15. Spot on, and these points should be pointed out more often. Only a fool would think that these days, football is only about The Football.
    In fairness to the club, they did say 8 yrs ago that we were going to have a tough 7-8 yrs while paying for the stadium, they told us,they were honest with us,but of course it fell on deaf ears.. so much so that its still being said that the board and manager want to ruin our great club.. now i’m no businessman,but 1 thing i do know, if you have a profitable business, then the last thing you want to do is to Fuck it up.. just common sense really..
    I dread to think where we’d be if it had been any other manager in charge over the last 8 yrs with the financial restrictions that Wenger has been under..
    I hate the arguement that we’ve no trophies for 8yrs/that we haven’t been challenging either… Correct there is no trophy in the cabinet – but we’ve consistently challenged for leagues b4 falling away until the big money came in, so it obviously opened a gap between us and the city’s and chav’s..
    We’d lge cup finals, semi’s in both cups, and a champions lge final.. not challenging… oh please….
    So now the 8 yrs have elapsed, and we can all see that our financial situation is improving, a bit of patience shown and i believe we’re not a huge way off challenging again..
    And believe me if we can take on the cash rich whores and win, doing things properly, especially after such a barren spell, it will be oh so much sweeter, and i truly believe that Wenger is the man to oversee that.. as giving him 100m to spend is similar to giving a Mancini 350m such is his eye for a player…
    UTA

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  16. I can’t even be bothered to discuss the fans that cannot see what AW is trying to achieve. AW is damned if he does & damned if he doesn’t. The same with the board.
    I ignore the negativity, let them get on with it, knowing that we are The Arsenal and
    will rise like a phoenix out of the ashes as we have always done. Oh yer, we have always tried to do things the right way, nothing has changed as far as I can see.

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  17. blind. Or stupid.you say.?
    How about blind and stupid. Freaking know it alls.

    GOOD MORNING PA..

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  18. Sheep following freaking wolves on the payroll and with an agenda.
    Any lesser man with less loyalty would have walked long ago saying
    To heck with these ingrates. Any lesser man without loyalty..

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  19. Great piece RH, love it!

    Late last night Steww agreed that I can take the credit for coining the term “Positivistas” to describe the chaps and, hopefully chapesses, that grace this blog. Team Spirit asked what it meant and my reply is reproduced again today below:

    Team Spirit and others

    This may be the wrong time of day to do this, but what the hell.

    “Positivistas”

    1) An avid reader of “positively Arsenal”

    2) Used to describe someone who is a strong supporter of another ‘positive’ person

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  20. It’s so refreshing to hear something positive, please can you go on the Le Grove site and sort out all the moaning dickheads on there, all of whom believe they know it all just because they write comments on their every 20 minutes and find fellow morons to agree with them, that site breeds negativity

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  21. An excellent post, enough said.

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  22. in the space of 16 years he has brought the kind of transfomation youd expect to see in a span of a century…..the style, the infrastructure, the academy, the global scouting network..and everything done with a profit..with a + and on the black..never in brackets never in red.

    he was very close in 2007-8 but we all know what happened…. arsenal wasnt allowed to triumph….kicked and unfairly treated to the point where the players broke psychologically …later on they wanted out…wenger has been rebuilding within transitions

    wenger? with his inexperienced twenty yearolds ? and second rate buys ? with his 15m per summer transfer budget? winning the title from united and chelsea who had spent gazilions? ….no way……..if he beats us we might as well all retire and go home and grow tomatoes …it would have been a gigantic bitter pill to swallow.

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  23. Superb, RH!

    It is obvious that a long term plan is in effect. I read a write up saying that Arsenal has “settled”, it was in the one of the silly articles about the “buy out”. Arsenal have not settled but are trying to secure the team for decades to come. It is obvious to me that the idea is to make the club not only healthy financially but to set this team up to be the biggest and best in the world. That is what AW said he wants to do, no?

    It was said quite a lot that some would prefer an FA Cup in one of the 8 years and miss the CL. I have come to the conclusion that that is really silly. Would Swansea rather win the CC or be in the top 4? what about Portsmouth who recently won the FA Cup? would they prefer be in the PL and not have won the FA Cup, I am sure of it. Sure you want to win things but what is the point of winning an insignificant cup if you are not fighting at the top of your profession. AW is correct when he says that CL Footy is bigger than any cup. That he has kept us at the top inspite of the restrictions is what people should focus on.

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  24. redarmy, that place is beyond sorting out. I have only gone over their to be a nuisance but never really tried to talk sense into them. It is all but impossible.

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  25. Great post and comments today. Many, many thanks to y’all.

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  26. Hunter, season before last saw us get some real crap calls go against us towards the end of the season. Not to mention the CL, that is a plain travesty, even Barca supporters admit to it.

    So, contrary to what is popular amongst the “Wenger out” crusaders, we have been very close, only to painfully fall at the end. Some of the wounds were self inflicted but we are never short of the head scratching ref decisions.

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  27. The ignorant are more to be pitied than scolded – are my fount of pity has rarely been as close to empty as it has been in the past few months

    Enough of the ignorati – onwards to the sunny uplands

    And Reading

    Normally I am not too bothered about international breaks as I enjoy watching the national side but this one is a bummer – San Marino ffs -just when we want football and more football

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  28. “The ‘cure’ of which you speak is most likely AW growing bored with the disrespect shown by some when he merely speaks the truth.”

    It pains me to see so much criticism being thrown at a manager who would be otherwise considered the best ever if he had taken over Madrid or A.C. Milan. Instead we’ve got tossers like the bin bag morons and the “thanks for the memories” banner waving twats agitating to get rid of Wenger. I know this club is on its way to being a mega club within the next decade and I don’t want the bad supporters jumping up and down when we win the tin cups. I want them to all fuck off now why they still have an excuse to do so.

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  29. G69
    Now that’s what I call a post

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  30. respect the wenger and his work for us
    dont be a c** dont slag him like an arse

    and when we win the cups, dont celebrate with us
    you showed your colours theres no turning back

    karaoke…..

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  31. “I want them to all fuck off now why they still have an excuse to do so.” Yes. This.

    “Chapess”, GP? Is that what I am? Sounds weird, but I’ll take it. Regardless, I am definitely a Positivista. Now to teach auto-correct how to spell that.

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  32. I must say, it is nice to see Senderos having a good career. It is always nice to see ex Arsenal players doing well, for the most part.

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  33. The negativista can just go fuck themselves. From this very day they do not exist. I have cast them out. I will not read their rubbish and if they try to speak to me I will walk off without speaking. Fence sitters are just closet negativista so they get the very same treatment.

    This is the only blog I read and my information will come from….Arsenal. Yes there’s a novel idea my information source for all things Arsenal will be Arsenal.

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  34. Actually, Paul-N, it is not often that they do well after leaving Arsenal, and there are also a few notable exceptions to your sentiment.

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  35. Frank, right, most don’t do well but it is nice to see players make a career, especially those who got put down while in the red and white. Eboue is another player I am happy is doing well and I hope he lifts the CL this season. There are quite a few exceptions, especially in recent years.

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  36. Thank you for such a brilliant post. Welcome to the new Positivistas who joined us today and yes I agree with Gainsy too, I don’t want to share our success with anyone except those who never stopped believing and never stopped supporting.

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  37. Yes. Basically. Verily, all I would have said hath been said.

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  38. Excellent Article. marvellous comments. Just read through last few days having been away from keyboard.

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  39. Yup.
    I have no interest in celebrating the end of a journey with souls who take no pleasure in traveling, who do not know how to apprecite the scenery and who towards the end of their travels, after having avoided various accidents, begin to heckle the driver.
    No thanks!

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  40. I am with Gains as well. That thought of these folks celebrating with us when we do start to win things again makes me want to puke.

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  41. “He is sensitive – he needs the support. He wants to do well, he loves football – when he doesn’t score of course he is down.
    “He gives us something different. He can dribble, he can provoke. Recently I felt he lacked confidence because when he got in front of goal you could see that it was not spontaneous. I hope that goal will give him a lot of confidence.”

    AW on Gervinho – just as we suspected.

    I don’t suppose the negativistas will take one bit of notice, just as they won’t to the marvellous article today. But those of us with eyes to see it appreciate the truth. Thanks Red Henry.

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  42. “Gervinho of Arsenal http://flic.kr/p/e49UWK No need for a rude reply, he is one of our players!”

    Stuart MacFarlane Arsenal photographer on Twitter – sad but true that he has to say that!

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  43. @ alabamagooner at 5:55 pm

    You may well be our first “positivista” lady! To make herself known at least! Great stuff. Welcome, don’t be a stranger.

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  44. Georgaki.
    Passenal,Team Spirit,FunGunner are ladies too.

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  45. Even though my Turkish club is Fenerbahce, I will cheer for Eboue and Galatasaray to beat Real Madrid. I feel one of the darkest moments in this whole “doomer saga” was when he got booed off the pitch at home.

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  46. Really, that’s fantastic. I do apologise to them. I had no way of knowing, unfortunately. But I am extremely pleased that we have them and we want more. There is nothing better than diversity.

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  47. Are you sure alabamagooner is a lady?

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  48. George, and I bet they’re all super pretty too.

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  49. Everybody looks good in Arsenal colours!

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  50. http://www.footballorgin.com/

    A good site to watch highlights and even whole matches.

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