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Today we look forward to the Leeds game and discuss why Arteta has a shiny new contract.
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Great Pod.
George was absolutely convinced we were going win against Palace, Brighton and Southampton.
Let’s be honest both us and the spuds are capable of winning, drawing or losing all four games. Both teams are so inconsistent and unpredictable it is impossible to make an accurate prediction.
Liverpool playing a high line against a spud side set up to counter and were playing a Leeds side with a new manager that thrives on hard work sitting deep and making it hard for the opposition.
With all the strange results in the last six weeks why have people not learned nothing is guaranteed in football, especially this season, especially with the teams from north London.
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Just as I say there are no guarantees in football Brighton’s 4-0 demolition of manure means we are guaranteed a minimum of fifth.
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Hey Ian. 4-0 to Brighton. Bloody hell. Is it any wonder I am the pessimist to George’s ever sunny outlook.
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Win the next two games..job done
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livepool and spurs draw 1-1, so we are 1pts ahead of spurs with a game in hand, so 3 wins out of 4 and worse we can finish is 4th, with us only 4pts behind Chelsea there is still an outside chance that by winning all 4 of our games we could even get 3rd.
If we win our next two games, Leeds and Spurs we get 4th
has this team, has this manager, got in within them to take the bull by the horns and grab this brilliant chance to get CL football.
For me, from this position, it would be a massive failure if we don’t get CL spot.
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Can’t see how it would be a massive failure or even a surprise if we don’t get fourth. You have took at it realistically based on the fragility of our season. Just three games ago we lost three games on the trot to mid table sides. We. haven’t got a great record at tottenham and we know our squad is paper thin two more injuries in the wrong places and that could effect us massively.
I still think the end of the season is a long way off.
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ian it would be a massive failure cos we have it in our own hands, win next two and we get 4th, win any 3 from 4 and we get 4th, we have wiggle room, spurs can win all 3 remaining games and we can still be 4th. Having comeback after those 3 awful results, and beat CFC and UTD and West Ham, it would be blowing it, dare I say it would be spursy.
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anyone know the situation with our loan players who have finished their seasons, can they now play for us if needed or wanted. Players like Balogun and Ballard have finished their Championship seasons.
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Ed, just because something is in your own hands doesn’t mean it’s a dead cert especially in football and especially if you have been inconsistent all season.
If we were a very good side who was very consistent then I could understand your point but we are still very fragile.
The Leeds game will be difficult unless we score early and it could become a very frustrating game. If we don’t win it then the spuds game will be very nervey.
Newcastle away another difficult game against a team on better form than their league position suggest. Even Everton on the last day could be a real scrap if they are still not safe.
We desperately need a win today and at least a draw against the spuds even then two draws on our last two games could see us lose out on because of our weak GD.
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The loan deals normally have a finishing date on them rather than the last game of the season. Sometimes play offs are already included sometimes teams have to apply for an extension. Basically I think each one is different but once they are back at the club then they can play for us
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Good luck to the Women today and and Manchester United Women as well.
A Gooner Women league win and men’s win against Leeds would make a fantastic Sunday COYG.
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Arsenal: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Holding, Gabriel, Soares, Elneny, Xhaka, Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli, Nketiah.
Subs: Leno, Lacazette, Smith Rowe, Pepe, Tavares, Lokonga, Oulad M’hand, Swanson, Patino.
Leeds: Meslier, Ayling, Koch, Llorente, Firpo, Phillips, Klich, Raphinha, Jmes, Harrison, Gelhardt.
Subs: Klaesson, Rodrigo, Struijk, Bate, Hjelde, Cresswell, Greenwood, Shackleton, Gray
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Arteta (ex Arsenal legends at the Emirates) “Now hopefully they have realised that anyone who wants to contribute to what we’re doing, with advice or support, he’s more than welcome to come. Anyone that wants to poison the club, he’s going to be very far away from the club”
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Q is have you poisoned the club Arteta? What if they those who are deemed dissenters were the anti-dote?
Oh well, on we go. Its great to support a club that needs others teams to mess up so we can be called “4th place contenders”, by the people who scoffed at Wenger. off scoff the boff moff!
Nice podcast lads, some great points made. Keep on keepin on!
COYG!
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its being suggested that Tomiyasu will play left back today, with Cedric at right back
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can anyone explain why Man Utd have played 37 games already, no one else has less than 2 left to play, and that is only 3 teams, all the rest have 3 or 4 to play.
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Eddie Eddie Eddie, Nketiah makes it 1-0 to the Arsenal, he chased down a ball back to their keeper, who had a bad touch and Eddie slotted in from 4 yards out
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Would be nice to see five today.
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Eddie Eddie Eddie, Nketiah makes it 2-0 to the Arsenal after ten minutes. Martinelli cuts it back from the by line to Nketiah to fire home first time from the middle of the area
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disgracefully Alying only gets a yellow for what is a clear red card offence,
VAR looking at it
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VAR calls ref to view it on monitor, and its a RED, rightly so
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Raphinha got booked for mouthing off at the ref as he was about to send off ayling, and he kept mouthing off even when other leeds players dragged him away, he kept going back, he should have got a second yellow, weak ass referee
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HT: Arsenal 2-0 Leeds Utd
Nketiah x2 with our goals, making it 9 goals in his 10 starts in all competitions this season for him.
Ayling rightly sent off, and we are in total command, leeds are as things stand in the bottom 3
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Hope we see more than two goals this afternoon.
Sorry to see the Arsenal women didnt quite pip Chelsea, but second is still good. I thought we missed Dani this season?Not sure if Viv will stay, lets hope so.
COYG!
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for fucks sake, miss chance after chance and then let leeds score from a corner
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martinelli has missed 3 or 4 good chances today, and it has put us under unneeded pressure
pepe has comes on for Saka
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ESR on for Martinelli
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once again Martinelli has a game of looking more dangerous than his end product delivers
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3 minutes of stoppage time to be played
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lacazette on for nketiah
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FT: Arsenal 2-1 Leeds Utd
Nketiah with both goals that sees us go 4pts clear in the chase for top4
it was needlessly close at the end, we wasted so many good attacking positions, Martinelli and Odegaard especially
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Well nice and easy first half, bloody hard work, sweaty- betty poop process second. Weird Arsenal.
Onto the Coop for better or worse.
COYG!
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A game to describe our season either very good or distinctly average.
Not sure how Leeds managed to get hold of the midfield after going down to ten men and being completely outplayed for long periods.
The set up for the corner for Leeds goal was all wrong, with one man over at the back post which then became two when Tommy was dragged into the middle. Having not conceded a goal from a corner all season it was a poor one however better for this to happen when you’re two up than in closer games. This maybe a result of continually having to change the back four.
The subs were supposed to stabilise us but really had the opposite effect. Weve always known Pepe will give the ball away often but the space he gave Leeds on that side to come forward was a nightmare. When we broke away with their keeper in our box and he conspired to lose the ball we should have taken him back off straight away (even if we had no subs left)
Even the Laca sub was strange when we were dropping deeper and needed speed to stretch the game. There was nothing wrong with bringing Laca on but just not for Eddie.
I got to say that Eddie was excellent but the Xhaka/ Elneney axis were again phenomenal in all aspects tackles, blocks, interceptions but most of all creation.
Mills, love the top “four” Quadraphenia reference , takes me back to my younger days.
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“off the cloff moff”
“tatty herbert” ( Jimmy gives the wanker sign as he walks away).
Somehow I always wondered if it was more a film about the 79 Mod revival, set in the mid 60s rather than a fly on the wall version of events? That films has some pretty good acting in it, Im not sure anyone ever really harnessed raw youth power again in a film(prob did but not to me in the way Q plays out)? I always wondered what became of Jimmy?Obviously he’d had enough of living, and dying and street fights,dance halls and pills. Im not sure he would have been a hippy or a Skin? I think he might have thought hippy was ok for a bit then dumped his VW van over beachy head too. Perhaps Jimmy would have skipped Skin and become a Suedehead? Maybe he would have shuffled off like Pete Meaden himself? Jimmy certainly saw the delusion of it all which meant he went on another road in life bit like his mate Kev?
“see ya later Kev”
“bollocks”
Maybe Jim went from job to job for a bit telling the guv to shove the franking machine up their arses? LOL! Sad thing was he was an intelligent lad crushed by the class system and the excitement of early life, getting blocked on pills wasnt doing him any good and certainly there wasnt any help for him at that time, and from family or society.
Of course the original is different with Jim on the HMS Jam Shoe stuck on Brighton Rock wondering what to do.
I saw Phil D in his local somewhere off Albion Road years and years ago. I couldnt help but really look at him.
The amount of ‘Mod’ records Ive got, and dont often play them these days. Stew was a Mod too in his youth. Funny I found the old Richard Barnes book Mods! the other day. Personally being perfume ponce, I liked the 59-63 Mods the best, but all its history is interesting, in all its forms.
Frist time I saw quadrophrenia it was up some older Mods house in 80/81 and one of them would come up to us, light a match then get his hair spray and flame throw us. i cant say I was into it too much.
Everyday fights between Mods and the rest at school at dinner time and on the way home, in the evenings.Mind you there was still a loads of skins around then too, they loved to stamp on yer head to see if it would sink int the concrete.Picking up my papers to do my round in bandit country was always big laughs! Kids always seemed up for a scrap in those days, most places seemed bandit country? I ve got some stories even about the bloody paper round!
I didnt get into Causal though, I liked a bit of early Casual clothes as it morphed down our way out of Mod. But I then went on another path as I wasnt into perms and Farahs and kickers etc.
Later in my late 20s and through my 30s I was pretty much into Mod again. Is it still around, seems to have gone for a Burton?
Glad I did it, but glad Ive said a goodbye, good times and bad times, most interesting thing was the Who had a good handle on the bs of identity, wich seems a central theme in the film and rock opera. Sorry gone on again.
COYG!
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Nice one Millso and sorry I’ve lost control of my like button.
Thought we’d struggle once we showboated the very best of our walking football but no harm done in the end bar a bit of a ( hopefully learnt) lesson. They’re only young but once you think you’ve won you probably hadn’t.
Now, about those Spuds….
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I dont know what I think about it all, all seems a bit daft really, ( i feel a bit embarrassed that I worte about it, but it seemed interesting too, Ian picking up on the joke)but one part of me hated it all ( I wasnt really a scrapper unless it was really forced on me, although i could be a gobby tool-and probably mostly out of fear, but you had to survive the daily storm!), all the different fashions and fads, and threats and conflicts one-upmanship and competitiveness of it all (the 80s Indie scene ate its own tale with that)and wanted to just go off and read and be quiet, do my drawings and paintings and dream of a life I would never have.
Of course I did at home, but you had to survive too,even at home and some times it was easier to go with a bit of the flow. With what I know now, I think i would avoid it all, but would I have been able to get to a place to then be cocky enough to reject all the experiences I had? They make us, they become the leaf litter of our minds and from that comes further interesting experiences and a harvest of wisdom in whatever form it might take. Most human activity can be seen as bullshit if you look with a certain lens. Its a strange lens to put on though as it implying other standards…some people looked down on it all and belittled it with shame, but if you cant express yourself as a kid then when are you going too, as we seem to become more limited as we become older?
Of course weaving in and out of all those times were Arsenal, and what a massive love that was then, irrational and tortuous and just the best. Every player was your mate, and Highbury was hollowed ground. I was so biased that even if the football was terrible, to me it was still excellent.
I suppose some of it was a good time too, but I feel so confused about how we live our lives on earth ( we live in paradise but often have made a hell out of it, and know its immature for me to say it, but I am immature: its bloody unfair how we operate as humans, Its too much about power and greed and not enough simple cooperation imo)and time itself was much slower n those days( Einstein predicted that time would speed up the more we have a deeper relationship with technology), so a two year period seemed to me like five or so now.I think Britain was quite unique at that time for having different styles. Now Fathers ad sons wear the same schmutter and yet in the times prior it didnt seem so, at least not 1955-mid 2000s?
But youngsters and their attention to detail with fashion seemed really impressive at the time, and Britain was cranking out great music ( maybe it still does for others?), it was amazing how kids manipulated the school uniform to their different group or fashion.I suppose the Iphone has changed much, Noel Gallagher once said that people once wrote a song now they tweet something. But thats life, always changing, what was then, now seem unrecognisable at times, and how do you ever explain how things were? Theres a residue from culture but it doesnt capture what was going on.
Best times I had as a kid though, were as a Japan fan, most people called us New Romantics, but we werent really, in the same way Japan had come out of the glam odd melting pot and werernt really NR at all, I still think that NR was closer to original Mod than Casual.
I was grateful as Sylvian and those lads that made that music opened up new doors and friendships, and ways of thinking and even though its 41 years old Tin Drum still sounds so modern. And it as sure risky to go against the grain wearing the stuff we did, you were everyones enemy. And I was still captain of a local side even then, so it was an odd mix. But we hung around the west end and China town and ponced around Long acre in the days when no-one was around on Saturday morning and it was the best. Until all that was swept away in 86.
Anyway, Im sure everyone on here has similar and almost certainly better stories about growing up in the horrible old world.
Anyway enough of all that. I was looking at some old games form 2005-6, dang I wish we were still like that, we would give City a run for their money…
COYG!
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Mills, like you said although the film was aimed at the second generation 79 mods it was written before then so must have been all about the 60s as it was portrayed. Most of the Mods brought in to advise the actors were original mods as well.
The 79 mods all split in to a million different worlds some remaining as ageing stereotype mods, some going into psychedelia, some following the Dexys style, some going just into scooters and becoming scooters boys. Like you say some went mainstream to be casuals or even into Jazz.
For me it was a natural move into Northern soul as I had already been traveling up north to Nighters and was a regular at Le beat route and the 100 club in London.
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Mikel Arteta spoke to the media after our victory over Leeds United at Emirates Stadium.
The boss discussed Eddie Nketiah’s future, Takehiro Tomiyasu playing left-back, the latest injury news and more.
Read on for a full transcript of his post-match press conference:
on if we made hard work of the win…
Yes, considering the way that we started I think we were electric, so determined, so incensive, we scored two good goals, created chances and didn’t allow anything to happen around our box. And after that, obviously, the red card presents a different match where they change completely their behaviour and how they set up and we have to manage the game in a different way. I think for a lot of phases we did well, but we needed to score the third goal and we had the chances to do so and then the accident happen when the first time that they were through at a set-piece we conceded a goal and it’s game on and some nerves have to handled.
on if we took our foot off the gas…
I don’t think so, it was just to try to play the game that we have to play in that phase, I think we showed a lot of maturity not to rush things and start to concede breaks, we didn’t do any of that, but then we didn’t find the net in key moments to score the third goal and have a different last 20 minutes.
on if the team is motivated to secure Champions League against Tottenham…
We want to prepare and go for that match like we always do, with the same enthusiasm, but knowing obviously that this can be a defining moment and that’s an extra level of motivation and another layer for us to really go for it and I can’t wait to play that game.
on Nketiah’s future…
Eddie is doing what he’s done all season, he’s been very consistent, with his performances and how little he is giving things away! Let him be, let him enjoy the moment because he completely deserves it and things will happen naturally.
on winning by narrow margins recently…
Well, we are finding ways to win football matches. The way we played today, especially the first 30 minutes was brilliant. So under pressure to play the way we have done in front of our people is a credit to them, but obviously, we have an opponent and the context changes throughout the game and you don’t expect to be all the time for 95 minutes on top of the game and we are dealing with that and getting better at is because at the end, we are winning football matches.
on controlling the nerves…
Hopefully not, but I think when you look at the other games, you see a lot of that. Now is the defining moment when a goal can change the whole season, and that plays in the back of the players but I didn’t see any of that at the start of the game.
on his relationship with Xhaka…
It’s the relationship he has with his teammates, obviously the fact he plays a lot of minutes, and credit to him because he’s been really consistent again throughout the season, that’s what we need from the players to get close to their best.
on Saka’s fitness…
Yeah, he was fine.
on players suffering during matches…
This is football, if you look at what happened a few days ago in Madrid, there are things that nobody can explain but this is the beauty of this match, and suffering unfortunately for all of us, especially for the managers, it’s part of it.
on whether White will be fit for the north London derby
I think so, he’s been starting to do a little bit of work now on the pitch and we want everybody available because we know that game is so important.
Tomiyasu playing left-back.
It was for today, we cannot do things thinking about the next game, we believe it was the right thing to do today with what we wanted to do in that side, especially what Leeds had on the side.
on the mood inside the dressing room…
Really good, really positive, but at the same time really humble. We know that nothing has been achieved yet and still a lot of things and a lot of minutes to play to do what we want to achieve.
on Pepe’s missed chance…
When you see that he’s got an empty net in front of him and he’s taking a touch backward, we cannot really understand but you have to have the perception of the player in that moment. They are the ones who make the decisions, and fortunately, we didn’t need that goal.
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Im sure it was set in 65. Although from my research it wasnt really like that although some scenes were replicated. Seems to be a bit too much swearing? I used to talk to as many original Mods as possible, it was funny to see how quickly it was changing. Certainly a lot of original Modernists thought that the 65s Mody boys were third rate tickets. But then that topping and one-upmanship goes on in every scene.
Youre right about Mod morphing around; it influenced so much later Acid Jazz, elements of the 89/90/91 Manchester scene( that was pretty electric atmosphere),and the club scene that was with Weatherall, Farley and Justin Robertson as djs ,and of course Brit pop,and Im sure it will resurface again at some point. I always thought Blur were miles more Mod that Oasis. I even played guitar a bit with some scooter boys who were more Greebs, they wore dockers( years before they became trendy) monkey boots and these weird cappies and old MA1 green jackets and had stripped down scooters, no side panels and took the front off too. As Mod as a fart but were somehow still connected.They even turned up at a lot of rallies.
Sad that many of the Mod rev bands arent thought of too much these days( The Chords, the Purple Hearts and the old Merton Parkas, Secret affair etc. I did some playlists on Spot trying to cover them all. I used to have that Mod Mayday 79 LP with the Mod with the dolled up scooter on the cover (Robert something?).
Ive got some Mod jazz comps on the Kent label, although they often stretch it a bit. My Dad was a Modern jazzer in the late 50s early 60s( which the original Mods nicked the name and the stylings), he cut a Bluebeat track in 63 ( he was in a pool of musicians who played all sorts of dos as djs still werent really around in those days), so Ska was played more as well as some cool jazz in our house. But for me the French New Wave was a big part of Mod, all those cool French fashions of the early 60s, the soundtracks to those films to me are as much Mod as anything else.Ive got a load of soul/Northern soul comps but Im less into it that other Mod music. But thats why it was interesting you and George talking about it last summer.
Do you remember the Ready Steady gos of the early 80s?
But I like all sorts of music, ska/rocksteady Rockabilly, jazz, but my favourite music of all is Jump rhythm and blues. I also love all sorts of music that coolheads would see as dogshit, but thats the beauty of getting older-you can admit it. It quite funny to look back at all the different style you move through and all the different music.
Dexys were one heck of band, Kevin R certainly knew how to use stylings to create and image. Does anyone remember the old Ska/ Two tone magazine that came out? That often added Dexys or UB40 amongst the articles Two-tone bands.
Le Beat Route! Very popular with the NR, not as strict as the Blitz club. Didnt Weller go there checking out the NR? He was pretty much into NR ( sort of love hate) in the late Jam early Style council days. Ive been tryign to find the essay he wrote in the Face”the other side of futurism ” for years.The Council were much more Mod than the Jam (imo). I only went to the 100 club once for a Japan party that was organised through a fanzine called Bamboo.That was an odd do.
Years ago I was acquainted with the Cappuncino Kid and he told me a funny Steve Marriot story. Some poor kid was in a coma after coming off his scooter and they thought Steves voice might pull him out of it, as he been a big Small Faces fan. So Steve turns up and is taken to the bed where hes lying. Steve leans over to his ear and shouts “oi yer cunt! Wake up!”…LOL! Poor old Steve, good bloke, those last interviews are really sad though.
Well better get on, HAPPYDAYSTOWN and COYG!
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Thanks Mills and how about a PA Greatest Hits challenge? Top ten tracks. Positively Mod. Postively Northern Soul. Postively Punk etc
Not sure how people do Mix Tapes these days (how many hours did I spend recording vinyl onto C90s?), but I guess compilations must still be possible.
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Sure would be interesting! Doing playlists on Spotify is a bit like doing old tape comps, Ive made some on there.
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I didn’t enjoy those last 25 minutes very much and I’m not sure who was more full of nerves – me or the players. If we can more or less keep these players together for a few seasons then I hope with maturity and experience they become better at putting (and then keeping) games to bed.
We played with great intensity until the Red Card, and I think may well have won by 3 or 4 if they’d kept 11 on the field. Once they were down to 10 it became a different game, and although its obviously difficult trying to pick your way through a ten-man defence, it’s virtually impossible without any injection of pace.
I didn’t think we would take 6 points from West Ham and Leeds, and I was fairly confident that Tottenham would nick a win from Liverpool (as they all but did) so there should be a few more reasons to be cheerful, but I still can’t quite see us making it over the line.
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We are definitely struggling on the left hand back post. This is not a recent thing as we have looked shakey at times the season. I think this is a player thing either as Keiran, Tavares, Gabriel and Tommy have all been caught there.
I know our record defending corners this season is excellent we do seem to get in a mess at that left hand back post.
We need to sort the structure out before Thursday or we could be in trouble.
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modernist top 10 ?
1. The Quik: Berts apple crumble
2. The Marvellettes. Too many fish in the sea
3. Gen Washington and the Ram Jam band: Michael the Lover
4. Eyes of Blue. Super market full of cans
5 .Georgie Fame. yeah yeah
6. Zoot money: Big time operator
7. The Beazers: Blue beat
8. Monty Morris: Penny reel
9. Ramsey Lewis trio: The In-crowd
10. Cyril Davies and the R+B all stars: country line special
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some pre Beatles top ten?
1. Rod Willis: The cat
2. Bobby Wall Tennessee: Tom Cat
3. King Coleman: Bulldog
4. The Runabouts: when I get the blues
5. Ronnie Cook and the Gaylads: The goo goo muck
6. The Novas: the Crusher
7. Del Raneys Umbrellas : Can your Hossie do the dog?
8. Charlie Feathers: One hand loose
9. Tommy Bell: Swamp Girl
10.The Shades: strollin’ after dark
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Positively jump r+b top ten?
1. Joe Lutcher: Ojai
2. Buddy Johnson: did you see Jackie Robinson hit that ball?
3. The Flamingos: Vooit Vooit
4. Lavern Baker: Voodoo Voodoo
5. Big Joe Turner: Shake rattle and roll
6. Papa Lightfoot: Wine,whiskey,women
7. Erline Harris: Jump and shout
8. The Versatones: Tight skirt tight sweater
9. Ivory Joe Hunter ans the Ivorytones: I got to learn to do the mambo
10. Griffin brothers: Little Red Rooster
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Positively Modern jazz top ten? Too hard to do a top ten.
1.Miles Davis:Milestones ( not he b-bop track but the one from the album Milestones)
2. Lee Morgan: The Sidewinder
3: Kenny Burrell : Midnight Blue
4. Cannonball Adderley :Autumn Leaves
5. John Coltrane: Spiritual- (live at the Village Vanguard)
6. Ann Richards: An occasional man or Paul Desmond: Bossa Antigua
7. Jerome Richardson: Way in Blues
8. Tubby Hayes: Yeah/ Quintet theme
9. Lem Winchester: Blues Prayer
10. Barney Kessel : On Green Dolphin Street
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Positively skaf top ten?
1. The Skatalites: Apanga
2. Don Drummond :Green Land
3. John Holt: Ali Baba
4.Prince Buster:Al Capone
5. Derrick Morgan: Moon hop
6. Lord Kitchener :Dr Kitch
7.The Message: Rum-Bum-Aloo
8. Tommy McCook: Thunderball
9. Baba Brooks:Guns Fever
10. Justin Hinds and the Dominoes: Over the river
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Positively Wenger land top ten?
1. Jean Constantin :Générique (Les 400 coup)
2. Triplets of Bellville :Belleville Rendezvous
3. Martial Solal : La Mort (À bout de souffle)
4. Serge Gainsbourg: Du Jazz du Ravin
5. Gus Visuer : La Bal du p’tit jardin
6. Miles Davis: Générique (Ascenseur pour l’échafaud )
7. Michel Legrand: We travel from town to town ( the Young girls of Rochefort)
8. Marie Laforêt :St Tropez Blues
9. Francis Lai : St.tropez
10. Django Rheinhardt: Place du Brouckère (
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