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We Go To Anfield With Some Hope.

Good morning one and all.

It’s been a while, how are yaaaa?

The Arsenal make the trip up the M6 to Anfield with our fan base brim full of confidence that not having lost since game day 3 has bestowed upon them. There is a genuine feeling that a corner has been turned and the future, and present, is a big paradise full of points and goals. If we win today, we go above Liverpool and in all likelihood, into the top 4. Seriously, if you have watched both teams play this season, that would be a miraculous outcome. But miracle or not, them is the facts, and no matter how unlikely, or how we have managed it, that would be a great platform to go forward from.

For me there is no doubt we have improved of late. We have a very good squad of mainly young players, Arteta seems to be making more right decisions and luck is favouring us, so why not be excited about it? Why not make hay while the sun shines? I believe this young team will improve, gel and develop a more pleasing playing style, when Xhaka returns it will give us more control and ball progression, every addition we made in the summer looks like a good buy. At this moment in time it does look a lot more positive.

It appears that we will be (excluding Xhaka) at full strength and Liverpool will be considerably weakened by injuries, good, it’s about time, for years it was us missing big players at important times. I hope we can take advantage of this today and come away with a positive result. We all want a win, but a draw would be a tremendous result also.

The club has been running a tremendous top class PR campaign recently, we can swallow it and be happy, for the next few hours at least.

Here is the Youtube game review for anyone interested,

Enjoy the game and have a great day.

Pedantic George.

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  1. Hi George, thanks for the preview. My only hope is that we dont get beaten by more than 4 to nix! I expect it to be tough, Klopp wont be happy about the game against the Irons or the idea of us going above them– should we pull of a miracle. But seems many people are confident, so I suppose that’s nicey to see, much better than reading my negativity and feelings pessimism! And of course I would love to be proved different.
    Thanks again!
    COYG!

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  2. Lot of results have gone our way…

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  3. Hello Positivistas.
    It’s been a minute.
    Been impressed with the effectiveness of our unity so far.
    Long may it continue.
    I think we can win against this Liverpool squad.
    It’s as good an opportunity as there ever was.
    Especially now that Laca’s doing his thing and starting.
    Looking at our line-up, kudos to MA for sticking with players that have delivered.
    COYG!!!

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  4. Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Gabriel, White, Tavares, Partey, Lokonga, Saka, Smith Rowe, Lacazette, Aubameyang.

    Subs: Leno, Tierney, Odegaard, Maitland-Niles, Holding, Cedric, Pepe, Elneny, Martinelli.

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  5. Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Tsimikas, Fabinho, Thiago, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Jota, Mane.

    Subs: Kelleher, Konate, Henderson, Minamino, Phillips, Gordon, Beck, Morton, Bradley.

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  6. 1-0 to liverpool, no more than their play deserves, Ramsdale has kept us in it with several top class saves, our midfield and attack have been dire.

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  7. half time 1-0 down, been outplayed so far

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  8. This might have been a game for both Pepe and Saka
    Arteta’s touchline jousting was ill judged

    it gave the home crowd a boost when they were struggling to get shots in, Salah and Mane stepped up the gears.

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  10. we should bring on Partey and Sambi for the second half

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  11. Jeepers. They’ve got some great players and our midfield can’t get close to them. No disgrace but if ever it was writ in black and white where we are lacking it is oh so clear today.

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  12. Laca up front, Odegaard for Auba and Miles for either Partey or Lokonga?

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  13. 2-0 down and its looking likes its just a matter of how many we lose by

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  14. It seems a whole lot worse when you have a glimmer of expectation. So many mistakes.

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  15. 3-0 down, we’ve been oh so poor, Ramsdale been our man of the match once again, says it all

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  16. …but aftv (etc)said we would win…I thought they knew everything?

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  17. 4-0 now, been cut open again, I’m so glad Arteta sorted out our defense, its not like his system has stifled our attacking play to do it.

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  18. oh how shocked am I, Partey actually was playing all this time, he has just been taken off with Eleney coming on.

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  19. Artetas Arsenal thrashed at Annfield.
    So do we continue with Trust the process version?

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  20. Full Time, 4-0 to Liverpool

    12 games in and we have scored the laughable total of 13 goals, 2 of the bottom 3, Burnley and Newcastle have scored more. The 4 sides above us have scored between 9 and 22 goals more than us,
    we sit with a -4 goal difference, and this with Ramsdale winning our player of the Month, and being our man of the match again today.

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  21. oh brother! I should have put some money on it, calling the result is horrible when it goes against your club, sort of embarrassing?
    Its nine years since we beat them up there. Sometimes I wish we could dig in a bit and stand up to the really good sides instead of psychologically falling apart and go all limp.Certainly we arent top three material. Probably 7th or 8 th is us.?This month and going into the new year could well be a difficult test for us.
    Its tough for players to make mistakes and pick up their confidence though.

    Oh well, on we trudge, but did you really have hope for that game? I didnt. Ramsdale was good again. Soon he’ll be off to a bigger club. How small we seem these days?
    Fork it! Next!

    COYG!

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  22. Alas…the inexperience showed.☹️.
    A tight team needed to be maintained against a pressing bully team like Liverpool. For all least 65 minutes.
    Once Tavares glitched, it was over.
    We don’t possess enough ammo against such onslaught. It’s too early for these boys.
    Part of the learning experience.
    They did show enough zeal to be proud of.
    I still like what MA’s trying to do.
    A few more experienced additions would help.

    Let’s keep it going gooners!
    Support Your Team.

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  23. Massively inexperienced compared to the Liverpool team, and it really showed, process or not, we have a long way to catch them up.
    The so called leaders really didn’t show, Auba was off the pace, so was Partey. Sambi and Tavares looked as they are, very green in this league , was Tierney injured?
    We have regularly been on the end of hammerings at that ground, pretty much since 2014, would be nice if someone could change that
    Youth and inexperience, aligned with a good attitude and work ethic might get you so far with some ,but up against class, experience, age , the winning of big trophies, and at times pure guile, on their patch, the positive qualities this team do possess are not nearly enough.
    Still, two positives, we don’t play Liverpool or for that matter city again in the league this season, and we have Ramsdale, they might have repeated the infamous old Trafford score line against us without this keeper

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  24. The mirage has been shown to be exactly what is was, a mirage.

    The performance was worse than dire. Awful, would be a compliment.

    Just imagine how bad it would have been without Ramsdale’s amazing saves.

    This so-called wonderful defence that has been constructed by Arteta has been shown to be nothing but a swiss cheese.

    All the poor performances that produced 1-0 wins against weak teams, were exactly that and not a sign of improvement as a result of Arteta’s “great coaching” of the new young players that he has brought in.

    I suppose fans need to have hope but the wishful thinking that I have been warning about for months seems to have misled so many into believing that we are on the cusp of a new dawn, when in truth it is the cusp of dusk and a descent into night time,

    Solskjar will be on his way tonight.

    How long before Arteta joins him?

    The longer it lasts, the longer it will take to recover.

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  25. Mandy, we still play Liverpool and Man$ity at home. The latter has beaten us 3 0 at home for a number of years and Liverpool have beaten us most times in that time.

    There are no positives. Only negatives.

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  26. mandy hate to disappoint you but we have to play city and liverpool again this season, chelsea too for that matter.

    how is it the likes of Crystal Palace, Brentford and Brighton can put it up to Liverpool, but Arsenal can’t

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  27. my view is that the likes of Palace, Brighton and Brentford can put it up to liverpool, cos they go out to score and they have strikers who battle and contest the high ball.

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  28. I once read Tavares always wanted to play for Liverpool and now he has.

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  29. 12 games played, almost 1/3 of the season, and we are on course for something like 65 or 66 points,

    something along the lines of
    19 wins, 7 draws and 12 defeats,
    it might just get us top 4, should see a top 6 finish, we actually might set a record for being the first team to get top 4 or top 6 with a minus goal difference.
    And its this lack of goals that has me most worried about our chances of making top 4 or even top 6. There needs to be a massive improvement in the number of goals we score, number of chances we create, and I think this only comes about with a change of approach and maybe even a big signing or two in January. Not at all sure either will happen.

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  30. I did have a glimmer of hope that we might stay tight and maybe get a draw.
    I realistically knew that Liverpool at Anfield is a step too far for this rookie team.
    It turned into a nightmare of flashbacks with misplaced passes and heart in the mouth playing out from the back.
    The experienced players really don’t give enough and they really are not that good basically.
    We have to pick ourselves up and play for longer than 20 minutes.

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  31. “ there are no positives, only negatives” erm, ok .
    If you want to judge this club on league results against City and Liverpool, because apart from a covid hit team against Brentford, those teams have generally done us the most damage this season, that’s your choice, But managers past, present and future would struggle under that weight of expectations ,especially with pretty much the youngest squad in the league , very few in the team who have been there for any amount of time, and leaders/ experienced players who seem to go missing .
    Seem to remember wenger himself having issues playing such teams, especially away, and one other I can think of, in his latter years

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  32. Well that was not good in many ways. Let’s just hope that thrashing gives us a kick up the backside . But I pray it doesn’t damage the confidence of the young team. Artetas reality check !

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  33. I do think Arteta & Edu played blinder in the summer getting in young players so that all poor results could be put down to young lads learning, more of the trust the process nonsense Everything will be wonderful if we beat NFC next week then will be ok to lose to new manager Utd

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  34. The real test for this side at the moment will be how they play against Newcastle next week. We’ve been comprehensively dismantled by Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool. I reckon they are the top three teams. Can we be at least competitive if not better than the rest? Is that our challenge this season? I suspect it is.

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  35. On a different but not altogether unrelated note who is likely to take over at Manchester United? Interesting to see how they have done since they signed Ronaldo.

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  36. Utd, who knows! Read one report suggesting they might want ZZ.
    Rogers a longer shot?
    Very interesting to see how that have done since signing CR, he has done ok at times, but Bruno F, Sanches , Lingard , Cavani and to a slightly lesser extent, Rashford have been a little poor

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  37. So the excuse is that we have a young team and not enough experienced players.

    Fine, who was it you removed so many experienced and replaced them with inexperienced young players?

    Was it Wenger, by any chance?

    We are what we are because Arteta did not want the experienced players, maybe because they would not always do what they were told, or for whatever reason, it was still his choice to get rid of them.

    Oh yes, and what about that great world star, Partey, the first name on the team sheet, the one everyone is pinning their hopes on, how good was he at protecting our defence today?

    The usual excuse would be that he has just come back from injury, yes another injury and was not really ready or fit.

    If so, why play him when AMN did such a good job in that position in the last game.

    I feel that I am wasting my time here.

    The many people who will excuse Arteta or absolutely anything and everything will continue to do so as we sink into oblivion.

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  38. Our unbeaten run came to an end on Saturday, courtesy of a 4-0 defeat at Liverpool.

    After the match, Mikel Arteta spoke to the media – read on for what he said.

    on his assessment of the game…
    We competed really well in the first half – they had their moments, we had our moments. We were really compact and used the ball in the right way to create some situations. We had a goal disallowed and then we conceded a goal from a set-play. In the second half, when we had to build some momentum and start to grow [into] the match, we threw it away in the first 15 to 20 minutes. We gave every ball away in very dangerous areas. We had [them under] no pressure. They punished us, we lost control of the game and they had all the momentum.

    on if the fact he has a young team had an impact after half-time…
    I don’t know. I’ve seen some of the biggest teams in the world come here to this ground and collapse. It can be – in certain moments I think we were a bit [insistent] when things were not working or when we lost some balls, we had to mix our play much better. But we didn’t and that’s it. They were better than us for 90 minutes and that’s the level. They’ve been together for six years and today you could see the difference in the moment that we lost control of the game.

    on what happened with him and Klopp on the touchline – and if it galvanised the home crowd…
    He was trying to defend his side, I was trying to defend mine and that’s it. I think the atmosphere was incredible right from the beginning, so that’s it.

    on if he saw his side’s limits today…
    I think we threw the game away in 15 minutes, doing exactly what we didn’t have to against the best team in the league. They were attacking us in short counters, where in two or three passes, they have their wingers going on the inside of your full-backs. It’s something we should have done better. We didn’t. But that’s the reason. At the moment, they are better than us and we lost the game.

    on if he’ll have to pick up his players after the defeat…
    Here it doesn’t matter whether you play young or senior players – I’ve seen all types of players suffer in this ground. When you go 2-0 or 3-0 down, it’s very difficult and we suffered. It’s a learning process – today there are a lot of things that we should take but the most important one after a result like that is the next one, and to forget about this one.

    on if he thought Mane was being too physical in his challenges…
    I don’t know – it was just an action and that’s it. I tried to defend my players and that’s what I did.

    on the importance of bouncing back quickly…
    That’s what big and good teams do, and that’s what we have to do. On Monday, we’ll start again, review the match, the things that we should have done better and understand the reason why we lost it. Then we’ll correct it and focus completely on Newcastle.

    Copyright 2021 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to http://www.arsenal.com as the source.

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  39. A defence today with White, Tomi, Tavares, all new this evening, a new, admittedly rather excellent young keeper, a key central MF , 21 and new to us this season, two attacking players just out of their teens, up against one of the best teams in the world , some might call that an excuse, I would call that a reason why we have been poor against this lot, City and Chelsea. Compare and contrast in terms of age and experience to Liverpool. Salah, mane, Jota, against a brand new defence?
    This Arsenal team is the least experienced team in this league.
    Partey – Arsenal player injured all the time, now there’s a novelty, exclusive to Arteta of course.
    Which senior players would you have kept on? Willian was useless, Luiz was on about 200kpw, perhaps the people upstairs had a say on that one, Ozil was brilliant in his day, but sadly, not pulling up trees now, and the best senior player stayed, but is now injured.

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  40. Defence all new this season ^

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  41. The second half today brought back terrible memories of that game when Suarez blew us away, Ozil kept falling over and Giroud missed a sitter!

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  42. this Arsenal team is the least experienced in the EPL of our own choosing

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  43. Bellerin(26), Torreira(25), Gunduezi(22), Mavropanos(23) are all still Arsenal owned, we chose to let them go, and bring in younger players to their positions
    we also chose to release Willian from his contract, and not to renew David Luiz,

    as I posted earlier, its a great move by Arteta and Edu, to go with the “young team” soundbite, every defeat or poor performance can be written off, its the continuation of the Trust the Process soundbite. The line about this being a young team is trotted out every time someone wants to dismiss criticism of performance, without any thought or acknowledgement to the fact that its not due to injuries, or lack of funds that we have this young team, it was a conscious decision made by our Manager and Director of Football. We got rid of older players, we bought young players on purpose.

    also Tomiyasu is 23, Ben White is 24, and Gabriel will be 24 in a few weeks time, they are not kids, same for Odegaard, he will be 23 next month, Ramsdale also 23, they are young, but not kids, the only two kids in the team are Saka and ESR, and they are both full Internationals for England, with Saka having already played in a major tournament.

    Also would ask is it the younger players who are not performing well enough or is it the older players like Partey, Lacazette, Aubameyang, Pepe, Elneny, also should AMN and Tierney at 24 be classed as kids

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  45. Sambi and Tavares are pretty young as well 21/22, and very inexperienced in this league. It takes a settled experienced team to take on the likes of Liverpool, who are pretty much just that. Brighton , Palace doing well against Liverpool were mentioned earlier, their teams are a lot more experienced and settled than this one.
    I can see why he let Willian go, he was, well useless. Bellerin, not so sure always rated him, but didn’t he want out, like Torriera? Luiz had some decent games, and clearly helped organise younger players, but he was on a pretty huge salary, perhaps those upstairs had a hand in that as well? . Mavropanos, don’t understand that one, Guendouzi? Disciplinary issues? Then, there is Saliba , what will happen with him?
    Agree, Arteta does seem to have opted for a clean , inexperienced slate. A new start, or a PR exercise? All I do know, unless they get lucky on the day, this team are prob three years from competing with the top teams in this league, if they ever do .
    Suspect there are more clear outs to come as well, Auba was anonymous today, by the end of this season, he is in some sort of transfer/ pay off territory. Pepe isn’t playing, Lacca soon out of contract, that’s potentially a whole new forward line being changed seasons end, pr even before in some cases
    A lot of work going on with this team

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  46. 13 goals in our 12 games, failed to score in 5 of the games, and scored only 1 goal in each of 3 games,
    and this rate we will struggle to match the measly 55 goals we scored last season. We are currently on for around 40 goals.

    also we have let in 17 goals so far this season, so a massive improvement is needed to match last seasons 39, we are currently heading for over 50 goals despite 5 clean sheets in the 12 games. We still have the problem that once we let in one we are more likely to let in more than not. In the 7 games we have conceded a goal we have only kept it at the 1 on two occassions

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  47. question is mandy if its going to take 3 years for this teams young players to mature into a force, will they stick around that long, as along with the ageing Auba and Lacca, both Partey and Xhaka will need replacing sooner than 3 years. So CM and main Strikers need replacing, will we be signing more young players that need another 3 years to mature. Also will Arteta still be here in 3 years. Already rumors that Edu is going by seasons end, don’t know if any substance to that little one.
    3 years time how many of today’s young starting 11 will still be at the club. Will still be starters.

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  48. Don’t deny there are problems Eduardo, there clearly are, and putting away chances are amongst them, not trying to blame him, but something about Auba looks worrying to me.
    We dont score enough, and when we play a decent team, especially away, they have a long running tendency to lose the plot and get hammered
    I have no idea if there will be patience for players to stick around, bit everything I read from the club,manager and Jk is that they are embarking on this route they are on,come what may, I don’t think anything any other manager, even in the event Arteta is sacked will change that, think it is extremely unlikely he will be sacked barring disaster btw.
    Most things in business seem to work in five year plans, Wenger left in 2018, they made a complete pigs ear of the whole thing, and lost a lot of money ditching Sven, and trusting Raul and his highly trustworthy mates, so I suspect their 5 year plan started with Artetas appointment . But things take time, I remember people calling for Klopps head in his first couple years

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  49. Rocksteady – is missing Wengerball
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    About the most annoying excuse is we’re a young team. The only way you can justify spending 150m to replace Saliba and Willock is if you’re shortening your path to success. If you were going to play the youth card then play those guys and spend the money on a top CM maybe.

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  50. mandy putting away chances is not a major problem, actually creating chances is the major problem. Arteta always goes on about the one or two chances we could have taken, as if this is a good amount to create in 90 minutes. For me this is the biggest problem under Arteta. There does not seem to be even a desire to create lots of chances, let alone an actual plan.

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