Middle ground and nuance are a thing of the past for Arsenal fans, you have to pick a side and go to the extreme of that view. Then if you want to be heard and become important( at least in your own mind and vacuum chamber), you have to shout the loudest and attack the opposing view in the manor of a blitzkrieg. Or at least that’s how it must look to the casual observer. Knowledge and understanding of the game matters very little in the on-line fan community, which is just as well because most of us involved seem to have very little of either. People with hardly any knowledge, insight or understanding( yes, people like me) tweet, write blogs and do podcasts preaching and lording it over other fans who we believe to have less than us.
It’s a joke what we have become. We used to fight and argue with opposition fans, now you see very little of that, I suggest it’s because we are to busy fighting with those idiots who don’t accept our expert opinions and want us to listen to their pearls of wisdom instead.
Almost every single loud voice on social media platforms “think” they know how to run the club, set the tactics and select players better than everyone else, including the owners, managers and coaches. Not only do we think we know, but the whole reason most of us do it is a pathetic attempt to prove it. The problem is most of us prove the exact opposite.
Anyway, I started writing this in an attempt to look at how far apart opinions can be, in a light hearted way, not go on a blitzkrieg of my own, So ploughing on.
Arsene was the greatest manager in the history of the club and gave us 22 years of beautiful football on a budget that would have relegated his rivals. The finest football brain in a lifetime.
Wenger was an ego maniac that dropped lucky with the players he inherited and signed, He should have been sacked in 1999 when he failed to win back to back titles and he’s responsible for the decline we now find ourselves in.
Mikel Arteta is a brilliant young manager who won us the FA cup with the rubbish squad he inherited. He’s changing the culture at the club and needs time to build a team in his image. He is getting rid of deadwood and trouble makers that previous managers left him and he will have us back on top where we deserve to be, All we have to do is support him. He’s elite.
Arteta has had 2 years and we’ve finished 8th twice and are now languishing in the bottom half. The football is shocking and shows no sign of improving. He has to go before any more damage is done.
Granit Xhaka is our best and most consistent player, he controls the game and is by far the strongest character in the squad. He progresses the ball more than any CM in the entire league and his passing is second to none. He should be captain.
Xhaka is the worst CM I’ve ever seen at Arsenal. He is slow with the turning circle of an ocean liner and always passes backwards. He disrespected the fans, the captains armband and has to be sold.
Mesut Ozil was the best player of the Emirates era and the only real world class player we had. The team should have been set up to suit him. The greatest play-maker of his generation.
Ozil was finished and has been rubbish since he fleeced us out of £350k pw. He was disruptive, lazy and was dropped by every Arsenal manager he had.
It’s our job to get behind the manager and trust the process. We are not the manager and a true supporter supports through thick and thin as long as he is in the job. You are not proper Arsenal if you do nothing but criticise.
A real fan loves the club and it hurts when things go badly. Proper fans just want what is best for the club we love only idiots blindly support.
Ok, enough of this nonsense, follow me on twitter , read my blogs and listen to me on Youtube, because I know more than you.
Enjoy the interlull.
Pedantic George.
P.S. If you don’t agree with me, go F*ck yourself.
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George isn’t that what makes us football fans! And the endless debates!!!!
Personally I am now at a more mellow place with Arsenal. In many ways defeat and falling from the pedestal has been humbling and much needed.
I try to enjoy the times when we are good and try and find positives in the aftermath of a bad performance.
I love that the hale end boys are leading the way. I hope more will step up.
I don’t find Arteta an inspiring coach but I am not in the get rid camp. He clearly has great rapport with this crop of players and he may improve who knows.
I hated the treatment of Ozil and it was a low point for me. But I have moved on from that.
I hold eternal hope that Pepe will become a legend!
Overall I just try to be happy, not too despondent when we loose but spreading the joy when we win.
Life is too short but while we are here we still have Arsenal
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Good post!
I think the problem is that we as fans have been promised a brighter tomorrow for well over a decade now and it has taken it’s toll. It seems one half have snapped and screamed “NO MORE!!”, looking at this new project youth as another false dawn. Another promise of a brighter tomorrow. Yet looking out of their window the football and results are as dark as its ever been.
Then in the other corner you have the optimistic fans who look at our squad and see a large collection of youngsters guided by a young coach whom are on the cusp of taking the continent by storm. A new dawn to wipe away the sins of seasons past.
One side’s looking at the past and present to justify their angst (x2 8th placed finishes, 3 wins in 7. -5 GD, bottom half of table)
Whilst the other side are using the present and future to justify their optimism (Young squad, 6 new players, three wins in last four, four points off 3rd, three clean sheets in last four)
Only time will determine which side ends up right or wrong. But until then it’s almost impossible to prove one way or another.
What i will say is that the football on offer is VERY un- entertaining and increasingly harder to stay engaged during most PL matches under Arteta’s reign
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Tfl, I seem to be always picking holes in things you say and I am going to apologies for that because it’s getting on my tits as well now. However watching glorious football and feeling the lifetime alleigence should be the thing that makes us fans not talking about it. That seems to be the narrative put down by talkshite and the pundits trying to keep themselves in a job.
Berg,
Project youth has been in place less than two months and then as a sort of last resort. Edu has been in place a while and only now has resorted to buying young players, if he thought it was golden road why didn’t he do it years ago.
The other problem is with this “project youth” image is why are our youngsters not getting a chance. Remember ESR only came into the side by last choice and many of our academy lads have been given no chance at all.
As for 3 wins from the last four, that’s a real I see no ships moment right there. Even football fans have to be realistic and performances have been awful with only the first half against the spuds something we can hold up as a bright spark in seven games.
Even the most optimistic of fans can’t honestly believe we stand any chance of taking Europe by storm unless there’s a war.
Football can turn round quickly there is always room for optimism but we all have to be realistic and not get caught up with sound bites like trust the process and project youth because just like in politics they are there to camaflarge the truth.
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Well said George.
The social media has become the poison chalice for those people who are addicted to it.
The beauty of blogging is that you can say what you like and most people won’t know who you are and there will be no repercussions.
I now look at 2 bloggs, this one and 7-Am and comment only when I have become annoyed at the nonsense (yes I know my definition of it).I look at these 2 blogs simply because most of the people who post on them seem to share my attitude and view and no one insults me when they disagree.
I see our club and our team falling into rack and ruin and am upset when I see the comments of people who seem to see the light at the end of the tunnel, when I can’t even see the tunnel, let alone the light.
Thanks for your sanity.
And yes, I have no doubt that I know better than you as well.
Now we find ourselves looking forward to the end of games and the interlull. Hardly tunnel fodder.
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Ian no need to apologise. As I said before we are not soo dissimilar as to how we see things. I am not blinded that I don’t see how the club has been mismanaged and what a shambles things are. I don’t buy the pr narrative from the club etc
All am saying is that personally I am thrilled to see youngsters like Saka and Smith Rowe lead the club. I wish Ainsley would have been trusted when he was playing brilliantly to the point where he made the English team. Its gut wrenching to see Ainsley and Nketia on the way out (unless a miracle happens).
I watched a few under 23 games and saw these kids coming through.
We are a million miles away from the top four. And our only hope is to fight for a europa league spot. And even that ain’t going to be easy.
But I have to be optimistic and look at the positives, and the young guns coming good is a major positive
I can’t do eff all about Arteta edu and the bollocks that’s going on at the club. All I can do and for my sanity as much as anything else is accept this is what we are and try to cling on the positives no matter how meagre.
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Brilliant read George, sums things up rather perfectly!
The Arsenal world has turned upside down, and then gone somewhere else, probably intra dimensional.
Tribal fighting to , well, self flagellation on AFTV, I have seen so called Arsenal fans on Arsenal blogs and channels praising Spurs to the hilt, admitting they punched the air after that last min goal against Ajax. Now, it seems Leicester or Everton are the teams of choice of many of that breed since Spurs admirable ambition with Jose didn’t really work out.
Have read a supposed genuine Arsenal supporter in the comments of a blog tell the world Saka should never play for the club again.
Then, Wenger, where do you even start! Our greatest manager became more associated with a quote wrongly attributed to Einstein than the great scientist himself.
What am I saying, don’t even know any more, except this post was excellent
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Thank you Mandy
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Great post George….I had never learned of the word Marmite until I started following Arsenal blog boards….but I guess this is what is happening everywhere due to the internet and social media. Political discussion has become more polarised for example…at least here in the colonies and former colonies of North America.
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When I was young I felt affiliated with every ARSENAL supporter I met, now when someone says they are a fan you have to find out what type of fan they are before you can assume you have anything in common.
In actual fact it’s the same for all football supporters I meet, whether it’s in real life or through the ether after a couple of sentences I can normally tell if I need to switch off or not.
This can be really awkward if it’s someone I would otherwise like.
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Very interesting blog which I’d normally enjoy commenting on but, damn, down in dumps about Newcastle news.
Hard thing to envisage, but in mid- (as little as 3-5 years, maybe less) and- long term this is far more damaging to us than if we were to tear up contracts of Saka, Smith Rowe and Gabriel.
I don’t see any way it hurts our chances of being title and CL contenders (where I assume all of us in our hearts want us to be) any less than City, Chelsea takeovers have, although now it’s a good deal harder to try model for, and genuinely hard to imagine how the top end of football business can accommodate it. Barca crippled themselves trying to keep up. Barca!
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Some initial moves: They’ll try for Pogba, Martial, Haaland, Lewandowski. Very likely to fail but will impact on what would have happened with all of them, given they’ll offer higher wages than anyone, which agents then use.
In England, a number of our rivals (strictly speaking that’s more Spurs, Leicester, Villa, Everton, West Ham than top 4) could easily end up with 50-150 mill windfall’s- Rice, Phillips, Maddison, Calvert-Lewin etc.
Beneath very top bracket is where we hunt now, and if you go against them on Calvert-Lewin for instance, anything you can stretch to they comfortably exceed- fee, wages, agent.
Lucky, I guess, short term, we’ve been buying young, brought through a couple of gems, and have number more who could come through.
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The more these things happen the more our sudden change to a buy youth policy is actually a buy to sell youth policy just to create funds to keep the club going but not to ever really grow.
I suggest we shouldn’t fall in love with any of our young players anymore because we will be watching them at chelski, city, pool, manure and of course the magpies.
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Depressing. How can these countries be allowed to have their images elevated through Premier League football?
How would you guys feel if it was Arsenal?
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The problem is any victory would be hollow you would be following a plastic team so not ARSENAL the club but something with can ARSENAL mask on.
Certainly fun to say we’ve won this and that but really you will have to deceive yourself to enjoy it.
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Is it worrying that our latest player of the month just got murdered at Brighton.
Tommy has definitely started well but are we now picking monthly awards on who is the least shit.
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Ive been totally forked 4 five days after having the jab and flapping around in a fever pitched world…my mind adopted the Mandelbrot set (no please stop! Please stop!)trying to work it all out after reading Georges excellent piece, (which was like a breath of fresh air went it went up, cheers George)and all your great comments, and I really resonated with Mandys thoughts. But maybe not knowing can be ok, sometimes too?
The article brings up masses of questions, and losers (mid table) questions are always as important as winners answers..?
Its bizarre to read that AW should have had the t-t back in 1999, either a troll from another team or someone whose view is so extreme its a bit frightening. You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead…
Cheers guys its been great reading all your thoughts from the sick bay.
COYG!
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Get well soon Mills
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thanks George!
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no ian we are picking the player of the month on who is the newest shiny new player, its how Gabriel got it 3 months in a row last year
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Guess a tyrant coming to the EPL was inevitable, they use the league to boost their profile.
So it seems the acquisition was only held up over streaming rights, not human rights, utterly depressing, but not surprising. All this stuff about respect , inclusivity, and all these words is just lip service when a journalist butchering regime ( and many other atrocities) coughs up the cash
If North Korea was more friendly with the west, would expect him to get in on the act as well
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I watched the first episode of ‘Fever Pitch: the Rise of the Premier League’ earlier this week and enjoyed it. It reminded me of the extent of Murdoch’s gamble back then, and I suppose the Newcastle take-over is merely the latest episode in the chain of events set in motion by Sky’s cash injection. The Saudis joining the party reminded me of what I think was the first piece I ever wrote for this site, quite a long time ago, when I played around with the idea of sport and money. Its a bit long-winded (and of course out of date now), but it did predict a few things that have come to pass. Of course back then we had Arsene to help us, so its not so easy to be positive right now: Newcastle will overtake many, but I’m not so sure it will be as inevitable as it once was that they will jump straight to the front of the queue.
‘I lost my innocence in the summer of ‘77, the year that Elvis died. It wasn’t Elvis’s fault and it wasn’t that sort of innocence either. For that I’d have to take you to a seedy back-street in Singapore a few years earlier, but the less remembered about that the better, and it isn’t that sort of a blog: I’m told there are better sites that cater for those sorts of tastes. It rained a lot in ‘77, and there was a big storm in London on the 16th August, the night the self-styled King of Rock and Roll passed away. I remember that because we were en-route from Chelmsford to West Drayton: we’d just played Essex, and were about to take on Middlesex. Oh the giddy heights of the County Second XI circuit, but we stopped to pay homage at the Hard Rock Café anyway, although as we were young we didn’t properly understand why grown men cried that night, the late summer storm mimicking their desperate tears as the last relic of teenage years washed away.
But it was some storm, and although the next day dawned fresh and clear, the ground we were playing at was almost underwater: no chance of play on the first day (and little chance for all three days, to be honest, but we persuaded the umpires that there might be) and so we turned to what we normally turned to, which that summer was Three-card Brag. We’d played for matchsticks and pennies most of the season, but that day one of our player’s Dad turned up to watch, and rather than go straight home again he joined our card school. Brag’s a kind of boiled-down Poker, relying heavily on bluff and nerve: we’d had a lot of fun with it on rainy days, but it was never the same again after Barry joined in. He watched our small-stakes bravado for a few hands, and then suddenly went a Pound blind, dramatically raising the stakes and putting the game out of most of our reach. We couldn’t double our stakes to see him for long, and despite sitting on good hands, we knew it was time to fold. Self-made man that he was he couldn’t see the point of playing for fun or skill, even against us kids: winning was everything to him, and as with so much in his life, he bragged and bought his way to the prize. I remember thinking that there was another sort of game going on, not one that I understood or cared for, but somehow important to those that played it. It wasn’t cards, and it certainly wasn’t cricket, but it was money – and that playing the game of money seemed to trump everything for those that played it.
I saw the same thing happen with wine and horses too. Racing had always been a rich man’s pastime, but first Robert Sangster, then the Arabs and latterly the Coolmore gang soon saw that it didn’t need to be a game at all. Invest heavily enough in the right blood lines, and the glittering prizes would inevitably follow: what splutterings of righteous indignation there were as the former aristocrats of the Turf found themselves priced out of their own favourite game, reduced to mere bit-players and onlookers at Ascot, Epsom and Longchamp. They couldn’t even drown their sorrows properly either: heavy investment in Bordeaux and Burgundy had now left Fine Wine the preserve of the Far-Eastern super-rich, seduced by the glamour of the famous name labels. Only the best will do for them, apparently, which is why Chateau Petrus retails at over a Grand a bottle in the Hong Kong restaurants: that it is then openly diluted with Coca-Cola somehow only adding insult to injury, and causing my mate in the Wine Trade serious problems as he smiles through gritted teeth while all the time laughing on his way to the bank.
And it was only a matter of time before cricket and football went the same way down the money road. Kerry Packer and Tony Greig saw that a long time before the cricket establishment ever did, and their World Series altered the face of cricket and the way it was played once and for all. All changed, changed utterly, the terrible beauty of the T20 game and its offshoot leagues born the moment Channel 9 saw that stay at home Aussie punters would pay to watch great sport from the comfort of their sprawling suburban homes. Sky and the bookies followed hot on their heels, just as they did when they saw that football was ripe for a rebrand, and it is essentially the TV money that explains why a few gifted lads, barely out of their teens, boast Hampstead homes and toothsome cars. But something else and more exciting happened with football as it moved away from its working-class origins and lost its automatic association with violent thuggery. The clubs themselves became the latest must have fashion accessory for the uber-rich and what better way to parade your success than to own one. The likes of Jack Walker showed what could happen when you suddenly take over and throw money at an under-achieving club: the Leeds and Portsmouths of the world showing the dangers of such an approach.
Because that is the danger for the high-rollers: you might raise the stakes, but you can never be quite sure if someone with more money might one day join the game and trump you by going “an oil-well blind”. Abramovich saw the possibilities, and for a while his spending made all the difference: indeed, he turned the game on its head for a while, partly to posture, but also perhaps to launder a reputation. But what a transformation in no time at all for that club: the greatest players in the world flocked to his side, and it seemed as if his dominance would be absolute. Except for three reasons, and they are worth looking at for a moment. Sport is unpredictable, and although friendly officials might influence a game, results can never be guaranteed: luck will play its part, and that capricious madam can never be wholly owned. Players, though dearly bought, still need to play, to be organised, to be motivated – and sometimes if they have already had great success elsewhere, their new huge salaries can take the edge of their hunger. It is not every manager that can cope with the combination of ego and slight lethargy, nor perhaps with the potential for interference from the wealthy owner. How irritating it would be if you felt obliged to play an out of form striker in a vital tie, for instance. And thirdly, and Arsene Wenger noted this many months ago now, there is an increasing pool of high quality players due partly to the success of new European coaching initiatives and partly to the shrinking of the world, leading to African and South American players more readily available. However many players you might buy to send out on loan, you can’t own them all, and the properly competitive nature of this year’s Premiership is proof of that.
There will be few who didn’t enjoy the delicious irony of Chelsea moaning about PSG’s expenditure earlier this week, and even fewer true Arsenal supporters who didn’t see the home draw against the City oil-slickers (achieved by our virtual second team) as a cause for due rejoicing. Make no mistake, the events of the last week show the footballing landscape shifting yet again. For a while, it did seem that the game was indeed all about the money, and that like those poor cricketers back in the 70s, there would be little point in trying to compete against brash new cash. But Barry had a heart attack not long after, and I suspect Jose is already uncomfortably aware of his owner’s displeasure. Barca are in trouble, and it’s a china orange to the whole of Lombard Street that a legion irregularities will be exposed elsewhere. More bankruptcies will follow as owners withdraw their support (you’d worry about Cardiff, Fulham and QPR right now), and as night follows day well run clubs like The Arsenal will continue to thrive as the post-cash injection football world becomes all shook-up. They say that cynics know the price of everything but the value of nothing – but Arsene knows that without holding on to proper values everyone will have to pay a terrible price. We were lucky to have him at the helm for the first few years of his managership – but truly blessed to have had him steer the ship for the last few when it got really difficult. And as Elvis might have said, our success, our stadium and our future prospects are all down to the wonder of him.’
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Nice piece Tim, and v interesting talk on UA. cheers lads!
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Great Post George.
A very nice description of the idiot fans,bloggers,click baiters who thought running a club is on their finger tips.
They thought Wenger has destroyed the club.
Infact Wenger has built the club in spite of all the negativity spewed by these idiots for the last 10 years.
Now they are tasting the bitterness of their own medicine. Let them suffer. They deserve this. Xxx
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Hey Positivas. Check out today’s Uncensored Arsenal livestream in 3 hours. It will be a gab-fest. Topic: “After 7 Games: Where Will Arteta Lead Arsenal?” Am expecting Mills, George and Seebs. If you want to participate DM me on twitter.
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Hey Millsy: Check your email for the link.
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Saka is an England legend
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So we do not get carried away, I watched the last 40 minutes or so and Saka did not touch the ball for the first 20 or so and did nothing thereafter when he did.
If some rich arabs come for Arsenal that will be the end for me.
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Arsenal Women 3 Everton 0. McCabe, Wubben-Moy, Maanum. 15 points from 15 to start the season.
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Super annoying: single vaxed daughter went down with covid on monday. Double vaxed me felt odd this evening and have just tested positive.
And had bought a ticket for Monday evening which ive now had to pass on to a Palace supporting friend (Clock End do your job!)
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Palace as always in recent seasons are predictability unpredictable. Although strangely enough so are we, well at least our results.
Our performances are consistently drab and although our opponents have been wasteful or just plain crap in front of goal our goals conceded is very low recently.
If Mikel decides to concentrate on getting our attack right we could be brilliant, could being the operative word.
I agree with Ehab that this will be close but with two unpredictable teams after the return from the interlull means anything is possible.
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Tim, I assume it was you who infiltrated the spuds camp and give it to a couple of their players well done.
Seriously though hope you are both better soon, take care.
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Well. The days of watching AW play three teenagers in midfield whilst staying close to the two Petro clubs & Utd. were fun.
If you can’t beat ‘em…
Is it another failure from the Kronke’s after their simple inability to find a style of coach (there are four or five decent candidates in the league!) to coach a club/squad developed over two decades that they couldn’t even manage to sell the club to someone desperate to buy any PL club? It is for me!
The war between the PL and the CL/UEFA for control of the sport continues & this is another blow to the superleague concept for now.
Let’s be fair the Kronke’s record is: Inept. Big people in the sport who have nothing to do with the Gunners are embarrassed by their shenanigans.
Fingers crossed the Chinese tea baron is still interested.
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Some will say wanting the Saudis over the Kronke’s is extreme as in extreme poor form. Fair comment.
But I ask you: would the Saudis have been as stupid and vile and lacking in class as the Kronke’s or would they copy their cousins in Manchester who built up their club up there by copying the AW model, stadium, statues and all?
M’luds and ladies, this case is closed!
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so fins who are these big people in the game that have nothing to do with AFC that are embarrassed by Kroenke’s shenanigans
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well depending on our result on Monday we could be as high as 7th, just the 6 points off top, or as low as 14th just the 8pts off bottom spot
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