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Soundbite Arsenal Are A Laughing Stock.

Sometimes I come across an idea in the comments section that needs to be the headline act, this is one such notion from our friend Eduardo

“Arsenal where soundbite is king. Much like the UK and Brexit, all it took was good soundbites to get the masses to ignore the reality.

Last season we had Trust The Process, that was our clap for the NHS, it allowed the dismantling of the squad, and shite football to be not only accepted by bloggers and big fan accounts, it seen them extol its virtue.
Now this seasons soundbite is Leadership and Culture, and means fans are extolling Imperial measurement football as what we’ve always needed, even wanted.
You see our poor results so far were nothing to do with us at all, it was not the process’s fault, no it was us being needlessly punished by the Champion League clubs for us deciding to leave the Champions league. But fear not we have a World Leading plan to make us great again, to bring us back to our times of Empire, we’ve branded it Leadership and Culture.
The lack of goals in our Goals For Column is not self inflicted, its a Brexit caused supply chain issue, and has nothing to do with us making AFC an unwelcoming place for some very highly talented supply chain operatives. Our Leadership and Culture plan will sort it out, as we are making it easier for less qualified players to take up the roles of Goal Suppliers. Its World Leading just like our intense training sessions that AFC were so good to tell us about by planting questions to our esteemed leader in his Q&A, it was almost a leaf out of the Laura Kuenssberg fawning playbook when interviewing good old Boris.”

Pedantic George.

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54 comments on “Soundbite Arsenal Are A Laughing Stock.

  1. hardly a positive article.

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  2. Change your name to Pathetic

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  3. hahaha…have to say that I like it. Very noirish with a bit of bite.
    Filling the need to find new ways to address the super slow motion drift of the Titanic in search of her iceberg, as the surround sound pumps out “isn’t she wonderful, isn’t she marvelous.”

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  4. Sad to see Greavesie died. I always recall the nervousness (and sightly nervous laughter) of Ian St.John, as he didnt quite ever know what he might say..”well Saint…”. and then would get on one.
    Then there was the time that David Crosby was on some morning tv prog, that Greavesie was on too, and they put up Greavsies picture, showing how similar they looked, Crosby didnt have a clue what was going on and who Greavesie was of course.It was amusing to everyone else though.
    I always felt sorry for him as he was gripped in alcoholism, and thats no fun at all, but he did get it under control and stayed sober and thats not easy considering the amount he was mullering and in later years he was pretty ruined by awful strokes which was tragic.
    Amazingly prolific goalscorer though.And every day theres less and less that recall the pre 70s footballing world.
    RIP.

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  5. Of course it’s not a positive article but it’s realistic, the comparison between the little Englanders thinking the British Empire still ruling the. World and those supporters still thinking the same is 100% accurate.
    Maybe we could develop a vaccine for this I see no ships mentality with a good dose of reality.
    We are where we are because of young Kronke, Edu and most recently Mikel. The last two of which I have previously loved and respected but unfortunately have to accept their failings and although I desperately want it to work, but on the evidence of the time they have been in charge see less and less chance of this happening with each game that goes by.
    I can forgive any side a poor performance in the first game of the season and the next two were difficult games but the way we lost in those first three and the way we struggled against the two worst teams in the division on current form shows no progression.
    There have been bright sparks Aarons control of his area, communication and ariel competence has been a league above Leno and this will help the CBs immensely.
    M.O. control of the game yesterday was also a joy to watch and even putting the free kick aside shows he is a special player.
    I know it’s difficult to tell after two games but Tommy seems to have started very well and his confidence in the air will compensate for Ben’s frailty.
    Add this to our own lads, ESR, Saka, Ainsley Eddie and further away Azeez, Patino, Balagon, Kirk and Ballard plus the return of Xhaka and the reasonable start by the new lads and we have the bases of a good side
    Obviously there are others like Keiran and big Bob that you have to add to that list as well.
    The question will be can Mikel and those above develop them into a good and cohesive outfit as we look into the magic eight ball at the moment it’s saying don’t count on it.

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  6. Spuds losing 0-3 today means if we can beat them by 2 next week we go above them in the league, football is indeed a funny game but oh how glorious that would be.

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  7. not sure what might have upset some the most, shining a light on Arsenal’s failings, or shining a light on Brexit failings.

    Sorry that should not read failings, I meant success. I just need to come up with a catchy soundbite for it. Maybe “We’ve got our Arsenal Back”, maybe not.

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  8. I like it. This is spot on as a critique of both Brexit and Arsenal.

    Trust the process. Where was Trust the process when fans were trying to oust a manager that won three titles and kept the team in the Champions League for 20 straight years?

    Where was trust the process for Unai Emery? Emery was a mediocre manager, but his team performed better than either of Arteta’s squads.

    Arsenal are reportedly ‘resurgent’ after two 1-0 wins against two team who have yet to win in five matches each after losing 2-0 to Brentford, 2-0 to Chelsea, and 5-0 to Manchester City.

    How can you be resurgent when you eke out two wins against two poor teams?

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  9. That a player shows promise in his first couple of games means very little.

    When Torreira first came everyone was raving at how great he was.

    Then Emery decided to play him further forward and it was downhill all the way and he has now been Oziled.

    In Artetaandeduland, players no longer play but are tools to be utilised as a way of bolstering up Arteta and Edu’s faltering and flawed “process” and when they do not cope with the” process” they are cast-off for the next stooges.

    The only important thing is how a player “performs” in training. What he does in actual matches is irrelevant. It is a shame that there are no points in training.

    Marvellous, so we beat the 2 worst teams (or otherwise, the 2 teams even worse than we are) 1-0.

    It is no longer “mediocrity here we come”. We have well and truly arrived. The real art is to be able to explain why that is Wenger’s fault.

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  10. Strangely enough we have to improve to achieve mediocrity as we are nowhere near that level at the moment.

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  11. I don’t think it was Wenger’s fault that we are where we are. I do think it is worth looking at the signings that he made to try to get us to the top of the table again – and how close he came to achieving that. Ozil, Alexis, Auba, even Petr Cech, all seeming at the time like the last piece of the jigsaw. But losing Cazorla, Wilshere and Ramsey to injury for long periods seemed to lead to 3rd and 4th being as good as we could hope for.
    So what do you do then? Settle for that, or keep striving? I don’t think Arsene ever ‘settled’ for anything and I would have backed him to keep finding a way. But I can see all too clearly how it might have been the case that a young Josh Kroenke came to believe those who felt AW was the problem – in much the same way, as Eduardo suggests, people came to believe that it was the EU and all them foreigners coming over here that was cause of their lack of opportunity.

    But the question to me is what to do now. I think Emery was a decent man, but it was always going to be hard to step into AW’s shoes. The signings made this summer do at least signal a direction, and as I’ve said before I hope that the next 14 games will see not only more points won and a climb up the table, but also an increasngly confident and fluent style. It would be nice to see some goals too.

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  12. Blimey has every one seen the stress and dismay and endless sobbing about Man Utd not being given a penalty. Compare and contrast if you will. Absolute joke

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  13. Tim

    For me Asking Emery to take over an AW squad was akin to asking John Embery to coach the Windies squad from the late seventies to the early ninties and it would be no slur on John to point out that he might have been out of his element in that context.

    I could excuse a rank amateur like me for making that mistake. But someone who manages one of the top ten football clubs on the planet a status which is now fast receding does not have that excuse. Perhaps it is Daddy’s fault for putting an unqualified spoilt brat in charge of something that is too big for him to handle, but if that is the case my scorn only increases. Alas I suspect the club is exactly where pa and son have always wanted it. Scrubbing along nicely now.

    Peter Risdale eat yo heart out. A penny a penny for the Oystens…the Blackpool fans never knew how good they had it!

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  14. The Arsenal we now have seems much more what the Le Grove/aftv people forced through with their loud aggressive fly over banner agenda? ” Thanks for the memories Arsene but all good things must come to an end”…so they admit even on their banner is was good? Well it did end, and we only have memories. Nice work fellas! The last piece of the jigsaw is the sugar daddy to buy all the toys to win the league an be the kings and Queens of banter! Thats the main thing, to win the banter. To feel superior isnt a sign of underling lack, its a sign of being the Big Banter Boss, the winner, the ultimate. My clubs better than your club! Duh! Without losers how do you know winners! Duh!
    The LG folks were always going on about the GG years and how much better they were ( what kind I do, people have perspectives that form their own idea of what is ‘true’?) and how myopic Wenger was and how the game had left him behind. Acki fkn kacki that be. Personally they didnt seem to remember that time, but moreover they were convinced they were right, just like that Charlie Chaplin lookalike. Hubris=downfall…

    All those people were utterly wrong and Wenger left the club in much better place than he found it ( oh yes he did!) And the evolution has gone all flake. Once feared and respected, now known for some elements of its fan base rather than football, Cruising on a legacy made by the hard work of others, half of them forgotten ( its coming to all of us sooner or later, erm later please for me).
    What does it mean when sections of the fans base comes up first on search engines before the cub. Power to the people? Which people? You and your mates? Democratic Arsenal! “Im sparticus! no Im sparticus! You must be Don Franiscos sister, no,it its a greater honour for me!”. I thought the me gen was in the 70s? Now we have the ME ME ME! gen. No its a greater honour for me! etc etc etc.

    Emerys fault was that he said nuts to the past instead of building on it and he says!” Im doing it Sidney Viciouses way, and all went boobalinkas up, supirse suprise! Carry on up the khyber” via the Baku bypass.
    Emery didnt give a monkeys about the Arsenal, the weird objective was to win the Europa League to get in the Champions league, which seems a bit magic roundabout to me, vous?
    I think these people also had some idea the Arsenal is theirs and they are the grand narrative to guide and show us the way. A rat I might be, but Im not following those pipe tunes down to the river, as its polluted…
    For the fans by the fans? Erm, ‘our gang’ more like. Free garden implement’s ( with logos of course) and torches on subscribing! Which hunts ( not a spelling mistake this time), and anti the current Frankenstein munster demos and other pseudo revolutionary pseudness coming soon.

    Ever week someones the greatest then the next they are deemed shite. Nice balanced views eh? The Arsenal Crucible by Half A. Churchills and all washed down with a Capn Morgan rum chaser…”chase them away”…ahh dog dayes it the Sun.(pukes violently).

    How long before new boy Tommy Gun( the current darling) loses a bit of confidence then the barking will start, and more blame and finger pointing and he ends up wandering around in the zombie dawn like ze uvvers? Tierney was the golden boy and now hes not. I noticed Saka and ESR are on the radar.
    Its a nasty thing we have at Arsenal, scapegoating. Its a nasty thing all the world over. Mucks up lives. Some people just dont respond well to endless mass bollockings and shaming, it doesnt transform their minds in a healthy way.In fact it does the opposite.How many of the fan base would like to be slagged to shit the way our players are? Me thinkey they no likey!
    Mustafi lost his nerve and couldnt recover due to the utter hatred, but for a long time when he played he was unbeaten, a world cup winner reduced to a player full of self doubt. Nice work fellas! Hector too, now Auba looks lost how long before he becomes the target of the fans for the fans sound bite. The list is long and Im not going to go into it. But this attitude is krank.
    Perhaps Pepe would be much more confident and under a manager/coach who doesnt prescribe a straightjacket to play in?

    Whats offensive is that the ignorant kack everywhere and youre expect you to sit in it, and they wont even offer to clean it up. I suppose some folks like the stench.

    Luckily all things change! Ha! Now what about some fresh air and some more tea vicar? Yes and some of those cucumber sandwiches looking fkn delicious!

    COYG!

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  15. Likes to all the comments above save my own!

    I’ll offset the negativity in my comment above towards the owners by enjoying some of the recent signings. I do agree with Tim that Ødegaard is an astute signing for the club in the best traditions of yesteryear, there’s a healthy history of players like Henrik Larson who grew up in Scandinavia enjoying the premier league. I suspect the climate is involved heh. The Emperor looks promising, Albert could turn out to be a prince never mind midfield general.
    I hope I’m wrong but there might be others in the squad or on loan who should be starting ahead of White at RCB? We’ll have a better idea as the season progresses. The coaching remains a concern for me and a quite a few others! I’ve enjoyed the subs in the last two games along with more attacking line ups. some hope if nothing else.
    NLD’s are always different this one the first with fans in a long time, anything could happen.

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  16. You know who with the assist and what a finish that was. The timing in the match, the players winning the game over their own coach, so much going on I could watch that goal on repeat with a nice cup of tea!

    Ramsey’s goals were all quality but that’s the best NLD finish of late for me. imagine if he pulls that out the locker on Sunday it’ll be an even more memorable goal given his recovering fitness and confidence. That’s if he’s not dropped for Lacazette!

    I am a shallow soul I can even forgive Auba warts poor play and all for his sins such as the nightmare penalty miss at WHL a cup winning run of goals against the best opponents helps!
    Given his recovering fitness etc. I don’t hope for consistent form just yet. A little bit rotation for the next few weeks could be smart but that’s just speculation.

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  17. Every single one of our players are good players.

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  18. John Emburey (Misspelling above)

    I thought he’d been a coach and checking he was/is a successful coach and scout in cricket and also a top player. probably not suited to coach in a team set up to bowl only fast but it’s a fair guess he might have coached or inspired top level spinners. Not quite the right analogy for comparing attacking or defensive styles in football but I hope it works ok!

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  19. Do you guys think there is anything we can call in a definite term, decline? Or is it merely flux and mutation with us imposing and variable value onto it? Thing is what causes flux and mutation, ongoing cause and observation of effect going onto cause again.
    We can say something is in decline because of previous standards, and these values are given and measured against, but do we cherry pick our values and then say , xyz is in decline. How is it possible to create a long lasting epoch that can sustain an idea or values? Mostly we see what we call a rise and fall. But really its just change and change?
    Because against the technical standards of the High Renaissance, all is worthless according to those who promote that element of what should be. But is any art that isnt of the HR worthless? The standards of the HR were one thing, and its most successful ( based on its idea of what success is)are branded examples of “what is”. But when we look that wasnt all that was going on at that time, its just evolution: survival of the fittest, not fascist bullshit perversion, but survival of what fitted into the criteria of the moment that was bounded by certain values (ie I the Pope and want you to a) show how powerful we are, and b)take Christianity as far from where it came as possible. What about the artists and art that didnt fit into the criteria of what was accepted and what was rejected? What is that of no value? Something like the Nutcracker by Tchaikovsky is technically dazzling, but it also begs us to listen to it beyond that as he created many melodies that perhaps you might enjoy( of course to some is vile). But that doesnt mean all contemporary music or folk music etc that was not created for the bourgeoisie it kack. But its always had that hanging over it by a class system of snobbery. Not that the snobs could create it, its just they called the shots and swept over it like vultures. It the same in art that the shadow of the philistine Shitlers that say it mentally ill hangs over art. And of course sometimes it exploits that, as a defence.Ironically it was the same with ‘popular’ music ( what rather than elitist music?), it formed its heirarchies and snobberies and authorities, just like everything does. In fact can we ever get away from all this?
    Post modern art ( and much art for the last 120 yrs)is often seen as shite but that it dared to carry on exploring a language that alienates people, or some at least. Its failure may well be that it wont explain its language (its simple to know once you do). We are relative beings and have relationships will all things ( accepting and rejecting, and even this changes over a long term).
    So is Arsenal in decline or merely gripped in flux and mutation? Both? Can we ever make a solid statement, rather than just stating whats going on after the fact. Out on the pitch is way different form the safety of the stands.But in the stands it looks so easy, therefore it must be?The utter hatred towards Wenger is little other than the green eyed misunderstanding of “I can do it better, and I know whats what”, after nearly a quart century was it necessary to destroy what what to make what is? By the value systems of the competition we can see this is the crumbiest time for nearly 45 plus years. but change it will, sometimes we will say its bad and sometime say its good. It crazy but twitter shows us how we live in relativity, even if conservative philosophers say we dont-too much to lose I suppose. Dont get me wrong, change can be terrifying, but all is always changing.
    Were we spoilt by Wengers ideas of how things can be? He created one heck of an experiment, that meant others had to cheat and manipulate the system to equal it and do its best to surpass it. We can enjoy many things regardless of what societal critics may think of it( see Adam Sandler films for example), but it hard to enjoy clogged and stuttering football. But not all who follow Arsenal want that, most just want to win to be superior by proxy to other fans.Its always been there, its just more visible with social media rather than calling some guy the West Ham wanker on the way home from school.
    Is it just the case of hiring a secular messiah to save the Arsenal soul?Is that possible? What if you cant find the disciples?
    There can be no Tabula Rasa as that goes against any real understanding of how we are( show me the beginning or the end, that includes big bang, big bang was an event we can very close to but might never find out what caused it, and how can there be not cause?), but new owners will bring new problems, new players new problems.
    Why write this? a)Im a pretentious tool b) enraged at reading some Tory crap this morning and c) because old Weng knew the system, he knew it was like rolling Sisiphus’ stone, he knew how to get players thinking for themselves but as a unit, he knew that sport is inspiring and uplifting when its done well, that it can go beyond ballet, that its physics can create joy as much as anything else on the planet. Hes gawn, but the system remains, changing and morphing waiting to create and melt absorbing and changing all who wish to play and even those who think they dont. The club destroyed itself, I suppose to re create itself or didnt know the system? It wont be the same again but then it never was, it was always changing and it still is. Some like it and some like it not. We live in our minds always now ( sorry Tolle but you misunderstood things?), but thinking of the future and coming from the past. Tough to be a footballer these days? Tough to be a human these days? It was always tough? And always will be?

    COYG!

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  20. Mills

    The people who said Arsenal fans want defensive football were barking back to the second phase of Graham’s era and not the first swashbuckling and coincidentally title winning squads. Which is mental! 1-0 to the Arsenal was an ironic chant at the time! Nick Hornby was not inspired to write a book by John fucking Jenson! What a load of carpet blaggers these Arsenal bloggers are.

    Doesn’t matter the era or technology anyone telling me that shit football is better then good football can get back in the bin!

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  21. Normally you would say the buck stops with the manager as a new one can make a vast amount of difference either way. If that’s the case any ups and downs are temporarily to a greater or lesser extent.
    Arsene made such a positive change that the fans, the board and even eventually the media learnt “in Arsene we trust” and therefore was trusted to make more and more decisions.
    When the mega Money era made his brilliance less obvious the board lost their nerve and with every bit of power they took from him the worse we got.
    I get the feeling had Arsene not been forced out then Ivan would have stayed and stability would of reigned but instead the temptation of glorious change proved to much and we limped from failure to failure.
    With both Unai and Mikel the situation wouldn’t seem so bad if we could trust the people above but Josh, Vinai and Edu seem to have no alliance with success.
    We currently have a buy youth, sell our own policy which is strange enough but Edu has been their several years where was this policy when he first arrived and why suddenly start now.
    The overall set up seems to be the worst in my lifetime. I have seen worse ARSENAL teams but we now have an financial advantage over the majority of teams in the PL yet we are struggling to make that count.
    A managerial decline can be a blip but a club overall management decline can effect to the club for years and years and can be very difficult to get back from just ask Leeds.

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  22. Every now and then we come across real ignorance. The aftv latest vid picking over the Weng interview is an example. If you watch it its one to get the old blood pressure up for sure!
    Full of ye old straw man hauntings, and cherry picking and not understanding how things work ( football isnt somekind of supermarket for what they want) not understanding the financial side of things ( like how much big loans are) , and moreover the club isnt them or actually about them as the centre of things, they are merely a part, a part that is narcissistic and malignant. Re writing history and trying to single out lone aspects as to why things go “wrong”is no longer understanding the narratives of humans, and how problems are created, and how history is.
    Then we find out one of the “pundits” hadnt even read the interview. Wow an opinion on something you hadnt even knowledge of! Nice work fella!

    aftv ” we moved and we are awful now”…” Wenger faults especially towards the end” DUH! How many cup finals? How many wins? And now we are doing so well with the manager they wanted, 8th twice and winning the pandemic cup. And getting a sound thrashing from people were used to compete with. Its odd in these peoples minds how its still Wengers fault.
    Apparently we were just scraping in top four every year. There was no scraping that Arteta ball. But shirley better to scrape 4th than scraping 8th?

    ” he was stubborn and blind”. Well what the are you then?

    Anyone remember the old Fun Boy three song?

    Wenger over shadowed every manger we’ve ever had since from Mee onwards.

    It seems the history of Arsenal through their dirty lenses of the these people is rotten with cliche and chery picked moments ( hindsight isnt clear sight). Wenger had a “big ego” ! Wow massive psychological profile understanding there!

    Apparently world cup winner Mertersacker wasnt good enough. Girouds crepe too. Yep. Crepe for not being their childhood hero Henry.Apparently Wenger looks back with rose tinted glasses. Wot an aftv’s view is real? Clear? The biz? Hot? Cool? The truth?

    ” I bought Wengers book, but didnt read it”…nice work fella!

    Then theres the moment at around 48 mins, the most unbelievable hypocrisy I ever heard!

    fins last words sums it up.

    But I should get in the bin too for listening to this kack.

    COYG!

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  23. Tonight is a game we should really be looking forward to, in the past Arsene would play a youth and coming back from injury eleven which would be really exit. Tonight I have no idea who will play and although Jeorge Bird says Patino and the like have trained with the first team there’s no guarantee he’ll play.
    Anyway whoever plays let’s hope for a good footballing performance COYG

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  24. Taking my son to the game tonight. We went to the England Italy final at Wembley and it was the worst experience of his life as we got caught up in the riots. His confidence is shot and he never wants to go back to a football stadium again. I have geed him up promising him that this will be a much more lovely experience and the arsenal fans are really good.
    He is still unsure but has agreed to go as I got his elder sister to come as well. Let’s hope its a wonderful experience and he gets his mojo back.

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  25. Have a good time with your family and hope yr son gets back his confidence, certainly can be weird for kids to see grown ups having a scrap, i found it pretty disturbing. And hope the Guns score few goals for you.
    Can you give us a report tomorrow, even if its short?

    COYG!.

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  26. Well I’m 64 years old today, and wondering what my 65th year will bring. I had the oddest experience on Saturday, which tangentally might have something to do with finding it hard to move on from Highbury. The day started unexpectedly well with a chance meeting with Sol Campbell, still, as my boy observed, a magnificent specimin of a man. And when work was over, the one nil to the Arsenal was a welcome surprise.

    Come the evening it was time for a much anticipated treat: I had a ticket to a Steve Hackett gig, his band scheduled to play the old Genesis Seconds Out album. Hackett has aged well, a slightly odd looking man but still rock-star cool, and he has surrounded himself with a young and supremely talented bunch of musicians, even finding a more than passable Peter Gabriel replica. The show was brilliant, full of energy, and when I closed my eyes I was a teenager once more. But oh dear the audience: they were all at least my age, many even older. I should have known it would be like that, but I wasn’t ready for it. We sat in dignified silence (apart from a steady stream of the prostately challenged forced to leave the Hall), all politely masked-up (as requested by the management), all worried that head-banging would see dentures fly. The songs were as fresh as ever, frozen in time: we were the living dead, our own mortality reflected in every row. It was uncomfortable, surreal and odd, and more than ever I realised it is not wise to go back.

    So I’m glad we’re at the Emirates now, and I hope that these current players will make the youngsters want to go to support them, so that the football crowd keeps regenerating itself, and that new heroes will emerge for new times.

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  27. HAPPY BIRTHDAY HEADY!!!!

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  28. Should be an interesting game against Wimbledon….turns out they are quite good at set pieces so expect them to try to earn set pieces in our end https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/sep/22/afc-wimbledon-set-piece-kings-arsenal-carabao-cup-specialist-coaches

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  29. 1Leno
    17Cédric Soares
    16Holding
    22Marí
    20Varela Tavares
    15Maitland-Niles
    5Partey
    9Lacazette
    23Sambi Lokonga
    30Nketiah
    35Martinelli

    Substitutes
    7Saka 10Smith Rowe 21Chambers 25Elneny 26Balogun 31Kolasinac 49Hein

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  30. 11 minutes in 1-0 to the Arsenal, Lacazette penalty

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  31. sub ESR makes it 2-0 not long after coming on

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  32. FT: Arsenal 3-0 Wimbledon

    Lacazette (pen), Smith-Rowe and Nketiah with our goals

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  33. man utd knocked out by west ham,
    chelsea and spurs through on penalties

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  34. next round draw

    Chelsea vs Southampton
    Arsenal vs Leeds
    Stoke vs Brentford
    West Ham vs Man City
    Leicester vs Brighton
    Burnley vs Tottenham
    QPR vs Sunderland
    Preston vs Liverpool

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  37. afcstuff
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    Arsenal’s next six fixtures:

    Tottenham H
    Brighton A
    Crystal Palace H
    Aston Villa H
    Leeds H
    Leicester A

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  38. Well that was a fun day out and the kids thoroughly enjoyed it. It was typical of such games that you get lots of young fans and folk who do not get tickets to regular games.
    The Dons did bring a sizeable group of fans and they were in full cheer through out the game. The one thing I have always yearned for at Arsenal is to have a chant akin to other leagues where teams have a chant that last and can go on for a long time. Though for this game yeah that would be a bit of an over kill. But the atmosphere was friendly and even the Tottenham are shit chants was in good jest.
    The game itself- it’s always interesting how games in the stadium are so different from games on TV. Even watching from different sections of the stadium the view is different. To be high up and see all the pitch and players positions is a very different view from what the players on the pitch have and the numerous groans when you can see a player in acres of space and the ball doesnt go to him perhaps ignores the fact that it is not easy to see that clearly on the pitch.
    Having said the game started as all Arsenal games start- we were tentative for the first 5 mins and the Dons were fired up and hence set upon harrying us across the pitch. This seems to be something that we have come to expect from Arteta’s teams and it almost feels that we often play it safe but then we end up being put under pressure. Better teams exploit this and tend to score against us within the first 15-20 minutes. No chance of this happening yesterday as the Dons just didnt have the quality. This Wimbledon team is a shadow of the former team. They are not aggressive or physical and try to keep the ball on the ground with neat passes. The perfect team for us you would think. In the first 20 mins Eddie was busy as a bee, energetic, pressing making runs but at the same time it looked like he was trying too hard to please. I would rather this approach though as there were quite a few players who looked rather lackadaisical with Laca being clearly daisical ! He just couldnt get into the game and the link up play was disjointed. This wasnt helped by the midfield- apart from Party there was no creativity and often the safe option was taken time and time again. So it was left to Martineli to stir things up and his direct positive approach bore immediate dividents with the penalty. He had the full beating of the full back and with a little bit of luck we could have another goal. Martineli worked had and even a crucial defensive block which could resulted in a goal for the Dons.
    The standout in midfield was Partey- he just oozes class and strokes the ball around with such poise. A lot of our attacking play come from Partey making the forward pass especially to Martineli in the first 20 minutes of the game.
    Sambi was very tenative in his initial play but what stands out with Sambi is his positional play. This kid just has a knack of being in the right place at the right time it was funny. You watch the game and you just go yep there is Sambi where I expect him to be. He is also mobile and very good with the ball at his feet and you can see going forward that he would be an ideal partner with Partey to play behind a creative front three.
    Now if Martineli was direct in direct and and made things happens , what I can say about Nuno. I dont think we have any player like nor have we had any for quite some time. I mean this kid though raw is super tenacious. He just does not give up and when he goes for you, its insane. His physicality, speed and just all round brilliant and bloody persistent was exhilarating. He also clearly trusts his speed and hence he is happy to go close and feel like he can pressure the opponent and get the ball. The big difference with Tierny is that Nuno is super conformable with both feet infact you couldnt tell which was his favorite foot. And I feel this gives more of an edge in attacking than Tierny who always wants the ball on his left feet. His second half performance was superb and easily man of the match for me. Though he does have a few weaknesses and is quite raw. He did get turned a couple of times and that led to the Dons getting into a promising position but Sambi and AMN dropped back to cover.
    AMN didnt do anything wrong in the game but neither did he stand out especially in a creative sense. He just simply had a workman like performance.
    Overall the midfield were often reluctant to make that the penetrative pass or play triangles around the opposition area to get in behind the defence.
    This all changed with Saka coming on. Okay Saka is just simply on another level. You can see why he is at his age it feels he is a seasoned player. Everything about Saka in his 15 minutes or so was just different class. His close control, speed of thought, surging runs, and attacking verve completely changed the game. Smith Rowe coming on first meant that we moved the ball better in midfield and for the first time we had palyers apart from Martineli trying to beat and dribble past the opposition. What was noticeable was the improvement in attacking sense from Sambi and Eddie when Simth Rowe and Saka were on the pitch. It was almost as if they stopped playing in a static and felt free to just express themselves. Laca came into the game more and the little flicks and turns and cute passes happened. And Eddie scored a brilliant goal. I think this is what fans want ,to see players playing with freedom to express themselves and at the same time work hard when needed.
    And of Nuno was Nuno a constant menace both offensively and defensively.

    Now the defence- Holding and Mari are what they are- back up players to be relied on in an emergency. The lack of pace for both is very obvious to the way they set up and forces the team to sit deep. Passing from the back was slow and safe, sterile possession. When Mari tried diagnol balls to Martineli it instantly put the Dons on the back foot. But there was really nothing to suggest that both can be first teamers. Cedric well, Cedric has the air of being a very busy person popping up here and there without much end product. He is akin to the guy on the street who seems to walk very fast and yet everyone seems to go past him. Again he wasnt bad defensively but there was not a lot in play to excite or even effective.
    There was a general feel that the players were taking it easy but there is a risk that this becomes an embedded attitude. One example was Mari sauntering towards a ball played taking his time only to catch from the fans reaction that there was a Don player catching up on him. You want to see players with a sense of urgency from the off and keep building and sustaining pressure.
    Our pressing is still an issue and I have said it before I dont know we work out how to press. Eddie and Martineli busy running about while others are busy dropping back
    Leno well nothing to say about him as he nothing to do all game really.

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  39. THANK YOU! Thats one heck of an impressive reportage, many thanks for being the eyes and ears for us. Sure hope it was a good family trip too.
    Thanks again!
    COYG!

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  40. As I said before the game in years gone by we would of put out a very young side and still got a 3-0 win.
    Putting out a team of first teamers and squad players and not scoring the second goal until the 77th minute after the first being a penalty was not a ringing endorsement, always nice to see a win but performance wise still worrying.
    I wouldn’t say Mari and Big Bob are simply back up players, Gabriel last season was awful at times and made lots of mistakes and It would be a brave man to suggest Ben White has had a good game for us yet. Potential is great but you can’t keep saying oh we think these players will eventually be great.
    So far Mikel has not given any youngsters a chance which is extremely worrying given the length of time he has been in charge and if he keeps it up will have a detrimental effect on the youth set up for years to come and could cost ARSENAL a fortune.
    Last night’s game will tell Mikel absolutely nothing about players who have all played first team games.
    This weekends game sees us losing the first game of the season, which can happen to anyone, then beaten by this season’s champs chelski, then beaten by last season’s champs city. Since then we had two wins in the league without conceding a goal plus two big wins against lower division opposition.
    All of this doesn’t sound bad until you watch the games and consider how we performed in the losses and the poor quality of the opposition and poor performances in those games as well.
    Aaron has made a fantastic difference to the team and exudes confidence which ripples through all those in front of him.
    Our local rivals started well sat top of the league without conceding after three games but then suffered a huge shock against palace and then after a decent first half against chelski then totally collapsed.
    The problem is they do have goals in their side and on their day are tight and compact and quick on the break, add to this our poor showing in front of goal in the league this season means we go into this as underdogs.
    Ugly Harry may not look up for it in other games following his argument with levy but you can guarantee he will be at his best this Sunday.
    This game will be a barometer for where we are. Are we only good against really poor sides or are we really improving.

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  41. Mills your are welcome and sorry for the typos etc as I did all that on my phone.
    Ian I agree with you this game tells us nothing that we didn’t already know.
    What I would say with Gabriel is that his performance this seasons has shown a clear and marked up improvement from last year. And long may it continue. I am not ruling out that he may make a mistake again but overall he has worked hard and the improvement is noticeable.
    Not so Mari and Holding – I didn’t see anything yesterday to suggest they have improved. And this was a perfect game to take chances and try things. Maris passing is a lot better than Holding, but neither shows the ability to bring the ball with confidence from the back. Look at Rudiger at Chelsea since fat Frank left he come on in leaps and bounds as a ball playing centre back. Saliba at Marseille is showing more promise than either of them at the moment.
    What I forgot to mention is the little cameo Blagun hard. He is strong quick and also direct. You feel if he grew on confidence and was allowed to take chances and make mistakes he could be some player. He therefore needs to go on loan to a good team that will get the best out of him. Coming in for ten minutes will not do.
    The Sunday game of course we could lose and this would be on two grounds
    We revert back to Arteta safety first approach which will hand the initiative to the spuds
    Or we fail the mental test and just don’t deal with the pressure.
    Win or lose I want to see a team going out with belief and play attacking football.
    And Ben White well I hesitate to criticise him at the moment as coming into this team and especially as a centre back is not easy. He has good qualities and I think they will come through.
    At the moment Odegard Saka Smith Rowe and Partey are the fulcrum of this team. Which means unless Auba and Laca step it up big time we will struggle for goals.

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  42. Mari and Holding were much better than Gabriel last season so if they stay the same he would have to improve slot to overtake them.
    Seeing as he has only played a couple of games where quite frankly he hasn’t been tested I can’t see how anyone can judge whether their has been any improvement at all.
    You are correct in saying it’s to early to heap mass criticism on Ben White but his early displays have been poor so by the same token we can’t say he is going to be brilliant.
    My point was to suggest at this early stage that Gabriel and White will be our first choice CBs (even if they turn out to be) is pure fantasy.
    Anyone of our CBs could still form a partnership that goes on to be stable two or indeed three, especially as the major difference is a keeper who is competent in the air which takes great pressure of the CBs.
    So I don’t think we will be able to judge for a while who is first choice.
    As for Balagon I think the world and his wife have known for a while what he brings to the table, the fact Mikel only gave him five minutes last night is another signal to young players they probably won’t get a chance here.

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  43. For now I think we can all agree Ben and Gabriel will start as centre backs against Spuds.
    Tomiyachi and Kierny stay as fullbacks
    Partey is automatic starter in midfield and question is whether he plays the full 90
    The big call is whether to start Xhaka or Sambi. I think Xhaka gets the nod here for his experience (the good kind).
    Odegaard is a definite starter and I think Saka is a definite too.
    Its a toss up between Smith Rowe and Pepe but I have a feeling Smith Rowe may just get it
    Upfront it has to be Auba.
    Lacazette didn’t do enough against the dons to suggest he should be in front of Auba.
    For once a bench consisting of Laca, Pepe, Sambi and Nuno gives us options and some flexibility.
    AMN gives us options at full back as well.

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  44. “Partey is automatic starter in midfield” Is he be fucked?

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  45. TFL
    I enjoyed the description of Albert’s game the most in the report, very nice, thank you!
    If Partey is an automatic starter for the first team why did he start against Wimbledon in the audition along with ‘Bert & Niles to see who will play alongside Xhaka? Heh
    It was a stodgy midfield three Mikel chose against the minnows if ESR isn’t going to start on the wknd i’d like to have seen him play more so I guess Arteta wanted to have a look at the three that started or ESR will start on Sunday?
    That shot against the bar last season…

    Am understandably expecting the same caution and Ødegaard to start against Tottenham and unlike against Burnley or Norwich most likely Xhaka and Partey behind him but with Arteta who knows.

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  46. Some would think starting a player who occasionally has sticky feet on the ball cold on his return after a ban in a frantic NLD would not be the coaches call.
    But if you look at the stats and you want an easy punt this weekend I am going to stick my neck out and recommend indulging the speculation that Xhaka will start in the NLD. And then get blamed for any goals the opponents might score!

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  47. Unlucky for Chambers that his only outing at CB under Arteta was in front of a distracted Leno against City
    like Holding he’s had very good spells at RCB. I wish White well he has competition in the squad never mind Saliba hopefully one day like Xhaka he’ll prove his value.
    Most likely the same back five as against Burnley if Tierney is fit.
    As George pointed out Tierney’s off form. Too frantic in his play in both directions imo because too much unbalanced play is going through him he needs some time and space in the game but a coach who dropped Ozil from his squad etc might not appreciate such things?
    This season I’ll be comparing Arteta to coaches with different styles like Rodgers & Benitez.
    i suspect 5th-10th could be a bit of a scramble with the top four hogging more points which means we’ll also be looking at maybe Villa and others too all season long. Though this could all be gibberish. I just hope we avoid the relegation form of last autumn after the NLD.

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