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Do We Have A Clue Who Starts vs City ?

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A guest post from Seebs

 

Well the new season is only a few days away and the real stuff is truly upon us. Arsene has really gone and the new breed are bedding in. I’m not totally sure there are more differences than matches in the way things are set up now, of course apart from the set up which has evolved over the last couple of seasons and is now totally different if you know what I mean.

The preseason has ended, and the season starts with us, as are most other clubs, still looking like we are in preseason, its all very strange. We certainly look like we need another four games to gel the starting eleven as these half a half games really don’t give you a good idea of how the team will perform over ninety minutes and against sides that will perform over ninety minutes, the whole thing is one big anomaly.

Would anyone have said Unai’s reign would start with Ainsley as the only sure-fire starter in the whole squad? I know there are other players probably with their name already on the first team sheet, however, the strength of the squad that has been build up over the last few seasons  is such we really have different players for every position and again those players could interchange depending on the system we decide to adopt.

We know Cech is approaching his twilight years, but Leno is a top-quality keeper?  Although I think the more experienced man will get the nod the decision will be close. As time goes on Leno’s distribution above anything else will make him the clear winner as we play the ball out from the back more and more and just as happened at city the necessity to have a footballing keeper will determine the pick.

At right back its close again but Stephan’s lack of game time with us will see Hector get the nod. As for the CB’s I am a massive fan of the Rob and Callum partnership and I believe they are the best footballing pair we have however, I again think the more experienced duo of Shkodran and Sokratis will start the first game.

The Midfield becomes difficult to call as systems, fitness and cohesiveness all come into play here. I’m guessing that as were at home and judging by the friendlies the midfield three will be Aaron, if fit, Guendouzi and Granit although Elneny could cover anyone of these three if needed.

Up front It would be Pierre, Henrikh and Mesut in quite an attacking line up and Laca unfairly missing out but that’s the quality we have at present.

That would leave the bench looking like Leno, Stephan, Callum, Lucas, Elneny, Alex and Lacazette. So, most of the new lads starting their ARSENAL careers from the bench and most the youngsters missing out for the first game.  I do think Eddie is very close and will get game time soon as will they all in Europe.

So, in conclusion, we’re not ready, but maybe readier than some of the unready we are playing early. There are things to be worked on and ironed out but in the main the preseason has gone well, and the integration of players has gelled quite nicely. Of course, I’m massively excited for next Sunday and will very nervous coming up to kick off.

Enjoy it everyone here we go again.

141 comments on “Do We Have A Clue Who Starts vs City ?

  1. Looks like we missed out on eight points last season in this ‘bad luck’ league:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45087444

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  2. seemingly Kroenke has bid £600M to buy out Usmanov, valuing AFC at £1,8 billion

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  3. bye bye AST and your jack ass attention seeking prick of a mouthpiece Tim Payton

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  4. So KSE have confirmed that Usmanov has agreed to the sale, Kroenke will use £45million of his own money and borrow £557million to complete the purchase. So all told Usmanov gets £601M +£1, only joking about the £1

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  5. Can Stan do a Glaziers and leverage the club for this loan or will it be paid from elsewhere?
    Our margins are a lot tighter than utds, I hope he doesn’t burden the club that way, but guess it is not in his interest to over burden the club.
    So Usmanov was not the white knight after all, in fact, I suspect unlike Stan he will pour large sums of money into Everton and be allowed to do so it seems with the aim of blowing us out of the water financially.
    But it all remains to be seen, a lot of hysteria out there. But running the club badly will be completely self defeating, so I suspect the hysteria is just that.
    As for fan ownership, always liked the idea and certain aspects of the German model, but in the real world, that has long gone from the elite clubs in this country, including the clubs the malcontents admire so much.

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  6. once KSE complete the takeover they can restructure their loans or take out loans on AFC to cover initial loan. With 100% he can basically do what he wants. He could even give AFC an interest free loan of hundreds of millions.

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  7. Don’t be mean Eddy it’s not like the AST threw away the opportunity and the money (not forgetting the moolah!) that the club gave them.

    Is it?

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  8. Does this mean that the sports communication Expert (transl.: Propagandist) will now take up an official position with his employer?

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  9. Interested to hear Shotta’s thoughts on all this.

    The lion of Uzbekistan meows, retreats gets bitten by a rat on Merseyside (apologies, that’s no way to talk about Rooney’s agent!).

    Rumours of Ivan running out the back door in the middle of his own house party never be to be seen again ( Arsene wasn’t the only exposed to Bushido – ok ok I don’t even know what bushido is but it sounds cool!).

    It’s all kicking off eh?

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  10. Hard to see where this is going. We all know the major issues some, rightly or wrongly have with Stan- distant, silent, doesnt get involved, let Wenger run the club, no transparency etc etc. But many would say a good owner stays out where possible and leaves it to the experts
    Some are saying this is a disaster, but why would Stan wreck something that clearly has some importance to him whether it be financial, an emotional attachment or whatever, doesnt really matter in the scheme of things.
    Wenger has gone, so he cannot run the club. Looks like Ivan soon going.
    Yes we could slip into the fabled mediocrity people who know more than me say about his US clubs, though The Rams seem to be doing ok. Or with Wenger gone, Stan or more likely his son might become conspicuously become more engaged in the running of the club, with a good team in place, Raul and Sven getting some good reviews. With Usmanov out of the way, it will be the Kroenkes asset, and theirs alone, hopefully they will love and nuture it.
    Realise this may sound over optimistic to those who believe Stan is motivated by one thing only, but hope springs eternal.
    My main worry, if the club stick to their admirable model, in terms of spending power, we are about to be blown out of the water by Chelsea, both the clubs in Manchester and in Liverpool, others seem to be on conspicuous sprees as well. Still, if Everton want to blow £50m on an ex Spurs and Swansea free kick specialist, thats their call.
    Stan and his team will have to be creative on our model, but have clearly invested in various infrastructure, so for now, cannot see great reason for alarm out there, as ever, the passing of time will reveal all.
    That said, a huge amount of recent change for the most conservative of clubs, will take some dealing with and realistic expectations

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  11. Stan’s letter to head of the AST.

    “Thank you for having taken an interest in my affairs.
    Now.
    Get orf my lawn!”

    Although we have long discussed the Fizman deathbed haggle, the limbo period, the new tv money period, the tug of PR Wars over the last decade played out in the media (in addition to Fleet Street’s historical hatred of Arsenal’s
    Model as quantified and recorded over at Untold (not an opinion then!)…given that we all gave our power of the Arsenal board hehe due consideration in the past and therefore didn’t spend too much time on the matter, and given the constantly tragic Self Righteous behaviour of some easily identifiable classy people towards the greatest manager in the history of the football club:

    It’s hard not to surpress a chuckle.

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  12. < our power over the Arsenal board
    IBSF

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  13. Reuters confirm this as a done deal which has ‘enraged some supporters’, although I my self am only mildly annoyed. I would have thought that the remaining shareholding crowd would be ambivalent. They may have lost their so called input (which was largely ignored at the best of times), some are about to become quite wealthy.
    This was always going to happen anyway, and we will now have to make the worst of it.

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  14. Well I am happy Mr Kronke has settled it
    Now the club and the team can move forward with the new structure and see what happens in the future.
    Anything else is a stress that no fan needs to take on

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  15. Arsenal FC not Kroenke FC.. The banner at the next game.. Or A4 sheets. Or black scarves. Or bin bags. Or walkouts.

    The plurality of ownership folk at the AST can cry all they like. They decided to take an anti club stand when Usmanov showed up, to the point of lashing out at the team after the 2011 LC final loss, which led to PHW rightly calling them (and not fans) idiots. They had access, they had support from the club, and they decided to abuse every privilege granted to them. I hope they fold up and disappear from view (My guess is the media will still keep Payton around as their go-to moaner)

    Fundamentally, it doesn’t change much for us. Maybe Kroenke draws dividends now, something Usmanov demanded he do while he held shares. But Kroenke could draw money from the club as much as he wanted and there’s nothing we could have done about it anyway. We’re now no different in terms of ownership than most other clubs. This is no catastrophe. And as far as owners go, Kroenke is nowhere near bad in terms of his track record.

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  16. SR it seems some might lose money on their shares, as Stan is paying a price below what some shares were sold at in the last year. Stan has agreed a share price with Usmanov, and its the highest SKE has paid for a share in last year, so that is what he pays for the other 3% too.

    Shard, you will find that AST stopped calling themselves a shareholders group some time ago, they were, despite the evidence of them appointing Dim Tim look at me Payton as their mouthpiece, smart enough to call themselves a “supporters group”, so now that they will have no shares, they will still try and wrongly claim that they speak for the fan base.

    on the takeover, there is only one fact that we all know about the future of AFC, and that is
    We haven’t a clue what this will mean for the club, good bad or indifferent, and anyone claiming otherwise is just spouting conjecture, they haven’t a clue what it will do for us or to us, what KSE will do or won’t do.
    from what I’ve seen today, its whingebags who were whingebags before this news broke, and will be whingebags for the foreseeable future, that are whinging about the take over, we can add it to AW, the board, the design of the kit, the team, the stadium, supporters who actually support the players and staff, the food in the stadium, etc etc etc, they are nothing but a shower of cunts,

    must add that I’m delighted that AST are being bought out, long over due.

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  17. Remember AISA gave AST the money to start up, as an AISA member I expect AST to pay it back in full.
    TBH I hope AST stays afloat as I don’t want all those wankers (disclaimer, I know not all of them are wankers and some of them are 100% true fans but you know the ones I’m talking about) joining AISA.
    Even with my misgivings about the AST I do understand the logic of the two or more ownership system. Although there is no reason to doubt the Kronke families dedication to the club a single owner can run unchallenged and this could be dangerous long term.
    I see my prediction about the bench this Sunday has gone to pot already with Callum going to Fullam. Personally I disappointed with this as I thought he could of played a major part this season. Obviously that’s taking a short term view and the loan may be the best thing for ARSENAL long term.

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  18. Chambers to Fulham confirmed and lots of rumors that Ospina, Campbell, Welbeck, Jenkinson and Bramhall all leaving before Thursday 5pm

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  19. Very true, none of us know what will happen, but I am sure Stan, or Satan in some quarters has sufficient vested interests to do all he can to make the club successful. Taking 40 million dividends out , as the more hysterical are suggesting could happen will be ultimately self defeating for him
    I am not sure about Stan, purely because I don’t know him, or his aims or vision, the club are doing good things behind the scenes, we have excellent players, they give youth a chance, wonderful charitable foundation, and I believe an excellent manager, like his predecessor.
    Still think the main gripes about Stan are he is not a complete sugar daddy, he backed Wenger longer than some would wish and most ugly of all , wonder if some have it in for him because he is as far as we know a fairly conservative American businessman.
    If a Thai, Qatari, Russian, Chinese, a David Dein led consortium of unknowns, or for all I know , a barely concealed Mafioso came in sounding a bit exotic and sexy promising the earth but ultimately with exactly the same MO as Stan, I wonder if there would be so much resistance in some quarters

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  20. Walton done the analysis……..?

    sniggers

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  21. the idea being put forward by the empty vessels re kroenke, that he will basically milk afc and let it go to rack and ruin, is basically crazy, in fact its bat shit crazy, this “greedy” business man, or should I say greedy billionaire, has built up a portfolio of sporting club franchises, with Arsenal now valued just short of £2Bn, the flag ship franchise, and he is going to asset strip it, fuck it up, do nothing to make it more valuable, get in the real world, when you have a flag ship, you protect it, you care for it, you show it off, not scuttle it.
    So guys next time you hear one of these whingebags spout their rubbish, bitch slap the fuckers into next week, all the while laughing your arse off at them.

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  22. Ed
    Sometimes you say the most wickedly wonderful things.😈

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  23. Response to Fins:
    Are people stupid enough to believe that moving from 66% to 100% ownership changed Kroenke’s control of the club. AGM, board of directors, mgt were all already decided by Kroenke. The response of the mainstream media including Ornstein is simply sensationalism, projecting wild negative consequences for Kroenke going 100%.

    A tweeter, @giantgooner, a self-declared takeover expert, has done a good job of dismissing the wild fantasies by providing legal citations as well as the loan prospectus showing Kroenke has committed in writing to not lashing the club with his debt. Just as it is now, when push to shove, if Kroenke should go bust, remote as is that possibility, we all know Arsenal as his asset would be on the line.

    One other thing. Now that Kroenke will become 100% owner he may be more willing to pump money into the football side, as he would be the beneficiary of his investment, not the minority shareholder, Mr Usmanov.

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  24. SR what you mean “sometimes”

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  25. Eddy @ 10:02 pm – Exactly!

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  26. seemingly Welbeck is joining Southampton

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  27. Joel Campbell might be on his way back to Spain

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  28. reports that Arsenal have agreed a kit deal with Adidas starting for the 19/20 season, for five seasons, worth £60M a season, our current deal with Puma is for £30M a season

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  29. by the way, Monreal and Ramsey were both in training today

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  30. Shotta, funny how so many are unaware of the possibility you mention in your final paragraph,
    It may or may not happen, but it is a possibility, yet so many focus on the negative.
    For what its worth ,I think Stan will have a team of experts in place to do the best possible for the club in a self sufficient capacity. But just hope they don’t pay too much attention to this EPL FFP wage increase thing that just about every other club are clearly ignoring.
    If Stan proves the terrible owner some fear, fans have shown they will vote with their feet, again, self defeating for the owner.
    Watch, wait and see what happens , if football supporters are capable of that in these days of chasing instant gratification

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  31. I may be in the minority here but am glad to see the back of Usmanov. I think Usmanov has been behind most of the negative press we have had in the last few seasons. Most negative propaganda directed at the club by the media and the silly Arsenal bloggers and podcasters had his name mentioned as the saviour tucked in somewhere. He probably hoped to cause an irreparable rift between the fans and club then swoop in as the savior and buy the club on the cheap when the rift ultimately causes the value of the club to fall.

    Ultimately, I think I have no problem with KSE being sole owners of Arsenal. From the time they bought into the club, the value of the club has risen, there has been significant investment in the club’s infrastructure, leading experts in various crucial departments of the club have been hired and given the freedom to make the decisions they feel are best without any interference from above, and perhaps most importantly, they have maintained the values and traditions of the club.

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  32. Arsenal FC
    Is the jewel in the KSE Sports crown
    None of his other teams
    has the world wide cachet, financial or world interest pull
    A self made billionaire is just going to blow that all up?

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  33. spot on jeri, Usmanov only piped up when things were going wrong, he never had a word to say after our cup final wins, he used to have journos and ex players as his special guests at games, then all of a sudden these journos and pundits would be slagging off Arsenal, wenger and kroenke. Usmanov’s main go to shit stirrers Jim White, Ian Wright the main culprits, and lets not pretend that AST members were not in bed with him too. Jeez at times there statements slagging AFC tripped over other, even used the same phrases and terms.

    I still say that the most dishonest thing about so many of the whingers in the AFC fan base, and a vocal section of the AST, is that they will not admit that the want a Sugar Daddy owner of AFC, and that this is the only real reason for their ire and dislike of all things Kroenke and all things AFC.

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  34. So the blagging Experts, the friends of the loss making Manchester Grunt, the sychophants and parasites know about as much about what happens off the pitch as they upon it!

    To be fair they have shown to all that they are cunning linguists. I’ll give them that.

    Take a step, shimmy and play your way past the weird prescriptions on bipolar pressing that don’t mention the passing out the back Emery signature (talk about projection! It’s actually embarrassing…), a nutmeg through their financial expertise and finally a Sokratis on Pedro inspired late tackle to clean out the defensive coaching Gibberish and that could count as a good pre-season!

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  35. just over 31 hours of the transfer window left, and if rumors are to be believed we could six or more players leave AFC in that time – Ospina, Jenkinson, Bramall, Campbell, Perez and Welbeck, with maybe 1 or 2 coming in. Looking like a very busy day and a half for the AFC staff.

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  36. I’m a bit surprised that there has been no mention of the Kroenke buy-out being a natural outcome of the Usmanov/Everton connection. It seems to me that Usmanov has privately admitted to being caught out and sold to the only potential buyer to prevent the whole sorry mess coming under greater scrutiny. Good news for Everton I’m sure and good news for us I’m just as certain.

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  37. Once it became clear Usmanov had invested in Finch Farm it was obvious the he was done. He could no longer claim seperation from his ‘former’ partner.
    Kronke knew this ,bided his time then put the ‘Squeeze’ on .

    Anybody claiming otherwise is being wilfully lead astray.

    Football has rules on conflict of interest, all the free seat takers must be squirming but as been shown by Leaders in the ‘Free World’ they will double down

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  38. Totally right whoever said- Eduardo?- what many want is a sugar daddy owner and that it’s revealing of their characters that they can’t be honest and open about that.

    For me, I can live with it so long as it’s not Glazer-style financing (but even if it is, i’ll have to live with that anyway).

    I was naive before they did their thing and wasn’t even aware that was possible in the football world (or outside). Buying with a loan, then using company earnings to repay that loan. An even bigger killer with them was that there were a lot of large payments/loans made to various Glazer children.

    But anyway, while I hope it’s not that, nowt we can do about it anyway, so may as well look forward and hope for best.

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  39. And it will be nice for Piers morgan not to be able to bang on about owning part of the club.

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  40. Sorry I can’t leave any likes atm due to a glitch but in particular would applaud Jeri’s comments. I feel much happier without Usmanov but that is just a gut response. If I were Stan I think I would be looking to get Arsenal back to one of the undisputed top 3 clubs in UK and use the Arsenal name in an American Soccer league, which I am sure will be a huge growth area.

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  41. Interesting thing said by Wilshere this week.

    “My problem in the past is going into every challenge fully committed. If it was 80-20 against me I’d still go for it.

    Always felt that, and that the more injuries he’d had the less wise it was. Could never think of the players with his sort of physique and skillset who had same approach.

    Mind, he then immediately said this.

    ‘At the same time I do not think I can change … in the game, you want to win the ball, you are going to do it.”

    Noticed Foden at weekend looked looked uncannily similar to young Wilshere in terms of physique and a lot of his movements. My bet is he’ll stay on slender side, as likes of Mahrez and Silva’s have.

    Anyway, hope Wilshere does try protect himself a bit more, and think he will get more ref protection and more care from fellow pro’s in a different shirt.

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  42. Odd, very odd.

    David Dein’s wish for single ownership, has been achieved. But, this one, will not fire $100 dollar bills, at the other clubs?

    No aggro, for Mr Dein!

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  43. Ed, so neither the Spanish left back *, nor the kid Greenwood, from Sunderland, in u18 photoshoot.

    Oh well, sometimes the youngsters from abroad don’t seem to start for a month or more, presumably because of regulations. Don’t see why Greenwood wouldn’t be there though.

    *Don’t consider him signed yet, as nothing official, and the ‘proof’ (for articles, blogs, twitter etc) where he listed himself as Arsenal player on instagram was gone within a couple of days.

    We’ll see. Actually, new gk from abroad not there either.

    Club been pretty secretive on academy stuff this summer.

    Dasilva gone now, according to someone at Hornchurch game (says he asked coach) last week. Not in u23 photo either.

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  44. rich the deal for joel lopez can’t be concluded till he turns 16, same with the guy from Romania, not sure about why Greenwood not in it, but it may be that club is waiting for FA to rule on the amount of compo we have to pay Sunderland for him, so despite the kid signing for us, the deal is not fully completed till the compo side is sorted.

    on the Academy being kept quiet, I think that is all down to Per Mertesacker, he mentioned in an interview earlier this summer that it was time the kids were kept under wraps, and stop them thinking they had made it cos they got in the papers or on the web etc. Per wants them to earn stardom, and not think they are stars just cos fans know who the are due to social media coverage 24/7

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  45. oddly(day before transfer window shuts) AFC had their photo call today, young guns Nketiah, Nelson, Smith-Rowe, Willock and Osei-Tutu all involved, as was reported out goings Jenkinson, Campbell and Welbeck

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  46. the young lads were also in the u23 photo shoot

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  47. just around 8 hours of the transfer window to go and all is very quiet on the Arsenal front, with little more than minor rumors of ins or outs.
    on the in front a new one has cropped up this morning, Lille’s Moroccan left back Hamza Mendyl (20).
    on the outs, it seems Perez to West Ham is set to go through, rumors that Welbeck along with Campbell, Ospina, Jenkinson and maybe Elneny are available for transfer.

    but it seems news from AFC is a no no, its a real case of “those who know won’t speak and those that speak won’t know”

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  48. https://www.football365.com/news/suddenly-arsenals-almost-sarcastic-optimism-looks-misplaced

    devastating particularly (for) those who spent years trying to convince themselves and the world that the real problem at Arsenal was a charming Frenchman, who won two doubles, went a season unbeaten, and gave them some of the greatest memories of their lives.

    I wish that this journalist who occasionally writes about the football had called out the desperate scribblers and podcasters by name & shame in the quote above but I suppose that unlike the pgMOB that he upholds some professional standards, class and dignity (happy to guess that “professional” journalists do have a code of conduct, unlike the…).

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