England were supporting the Italians in the hope they could achieve qualification in their third game. Sturridge was sending messages of support to Pirlo and the rest via twitter…while the Daily Mail issued an article before the game between Italyand Costa Rica about how to behave when supporting Italy in World Cups, underlining the importance of pizza, watching lots of R.Baggio clips on Youtube and to abuse the ref as much as possible. Gary Lineker was also wearing an Italy polo shirt in the studio apparently…. bless him.
After the Italians defeat by Costa Rica (a defeat which may even cost them elimination from the tournament) the English started packing to return home after completing one of the worst ever campaigns in a World Cup in their 40 years of qualifying for it. This has not happened since 1962.
The english press approached this all with its normal routine default attitude.
They are trying every drama they can to show how to enjoy these eliminations. Just like the guy who has been rejected by the hot girl at the bar but acts above it…as if he dont care – only in their hearts and minds does he/they know how much suffering exists.
At this point we shouldnt ignore or forget how many bestselling books in the country have been written trying to explain and analyse England’s failures in world cups.
Obviously…the reasons vary from ‘penalty curse’ to more serious reasons but none of these books touch on the one single truth –England gets eliminated from tournaments because they don’t have a good enough squad.-Since whichever squad they bring will rely on two or three (maximum) of themost seriously over-hyped players in world football. Players who are hyped up by the powerful UK media that are without international experience, afraid, settled in their cocoons, who by and large full fill bit-part player roles in their clubs where the main guys pulling the strings are foreigners.
The English never had a GREAT world cup squad. Never. What they did have though was an identity ( hey jack…lol) . However this identity has been lost ever since the introduction of the Premier League.
Production of English players has gone down the drain with realistically only a foreigner (Wenger) doing the most to help England produce decent footballers who can pass , run, are comfortable on the ball , know what to do and when.
The few english players that are genuinely good are paid excessive millions way beyond their actual value/worth and also get over the top -exposed in media. This over the top-exposure clouds peoples judgement on their ability. A goal from Rooney in a derby suddenly becomes huge news and shown over 130 countries, while a goal from Reus in a German derby might go unnoticed. That should not mean that the former is a better footballer than the latter.
The premiership is the richest league and most organised and profitable league in the world. A league that generates billions is no guarantee that it will have a great national team too. If the sheiks tomorrow go crazy and bring to Qatar all the greatest players on earth they will also have a super rich league but their national squad will still be a bad one. The english might think that since they can buy the best players and have the best league product they can do the same with the national team. That is not the case. International football requires work, sacrifice, lots of sweat, and individual and collective ambition. The only thing the premier league offers are over-hyped overpaid millionaires for the national squad. nothing else.
Off course all this happens due to some cultural traits also…like living in their bubble/microcosm , always thinking of being more important than they are.
In the recent past the F.A very optimistically handed the keys to the national squad to McLaren after Errikson ( who took them to three consecutive quarter finals). A Manger the English media referred to as “McLown“. The F.A thought that a less dogmatic coach than the Swede was what was needed for the players to make the difference. Off course they were wrong. For Euro2008 they didn’t even qualify. Unable to beat teams like Croatia, Israel and Russia . Due to the fact that they don’t know who they are anymore( in a football sense at least). They followed the opposite extreme of selecting big names and paying for a world class manager : Fabio Capello.The best and the best managed to create a salad that went to S.Africa in 2010 and was humiliated by Germany with 4 goals!
Their ability to drive national coaches crazy is unparalleled in football history. Hodgson is no genius, I give you that, but he did built a tough and solid Switzerland around Chapuisat before Hitzfeld took over and also built teams with tough defences in Inter, Fulham etc.. Alas even this lover of catenaccio couldn’t resist the pressure of the media and presented a team in Brasil with a joke defence and a midfield unable to support the strikers/forwards.
It is this dumb practice coupled with standard gung-ho naivety ( a draw with Uruguay would still keep them in the chase, while they were charging forward in numbers to win the game in ‘glory’..) that has eliminated them form the World Cup.
In the crucial game of the group the difference was made by Luis Suarez…an international superstar and world class player…not just an EPL superstar….there is a huge difference.
Regular readers will have no problem guessing who wrote today’s piece.
Positively Arsenal 
I think maybe since a lot of us only read English media we see only one viewpoint. And we sometimes take that viewpoint as gospel.
hey stop that you vile racist creature …. 🙂 freedom democracy opinion …long live the press!!
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sorry dex but i dont take you seriously anymore…. go check the news…
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Sav/Hunter
There is a dichotomy in how different misdemeanopurs are viewed and portryed in english football.
I remember the outrage when Vieira spat at the chest of that clogger Razor Ruddock. How many games ban did he get? 8 wasnt it? Yet a leg breaker will get just the 3, whereas in other cluntries (France, Germany for instance) they will treat seriously dangerous challenges, erm, seriously and dish out far longer sanctions.
There definitely is an element of xenophobia with the way the english media are treating Suarez, but you have to say, to bite another human being on THREE separate occasions (not to mention the racist shit) is kinda fucked up! And something that isnt likely to go doiwn well or escape criticism or punishment, except in Uruguay.
To suggest its all the english media is laughable. Just check out a few Italian media outlets!
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Hard to see how leg-breaking tackles excuse biting. Maybe Suarez’ defence is that he was trying to bite the ball.
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Did anyone ever take you seriously?
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Dexter
June 25, 2014 at 10:13 am
the one thing youve ever got right….perhaps now you see why i was laughing the other day at the arry and/or alike minded comments coming from one corner only ….uk…
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Sav
So Blatter is not currupt, has never done anything remotely dodgy and FIFa is above reproach and it’s all been fabricated by the english media a few weeks ago?
You need to do a little research, won’t take long. There is a long history of corruption involving Blatter, his predecessors, including Havelanche.
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dex
do you want a player you will have to sub every 45 minutes because you dont want him to be sent off?
balo is a candidate for red card evry time he plays in big games or derby, especially when the club is arsenal.
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Did anyone ever take you seriously?
..if you referring to people of limited intellect like yourself , maybe not.. ..there are many though who understand when i joke and when i dont…. just cause you are struggling dont mean you have to tag me again 😉
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Thanks, I will make sure I let you know when you;ve got something, anything, remotely correct, even the time, daye or day…
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the italians off course will cry about it…drama queens..but the uk take it to another level…the righteous approach “listen to us we are the morally correct!!” and half their front pages are full of paedophile court cases….lmao..just shut it dex…suarez is a legend footballer the likes of him it will take your country centuries to produce..stop being bitter…and stop pretending there is no corruption in the english game dude…what the fuck are the sheiks the russians and the dictators doing in the epl….money = honey i suppose huh???? oh evil suarez how dare he bite….
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You are soooooo defensive Hunter, maybe you should take over from Steve Bould? (smiley face becuae I am joking, so dont get upset again)
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Wow, you really do make it hard to “discuss” anything.
We can chat corruption in the english game, but that wasnt the topic here, nor was peadophile court cases (WTF?)
And I am bitter now? Or the whole english nation? And the whole of Italy is made up of drama queens too?
You should get a job in the Diplomatic corps!
Do you not see how your responses dont actually make sense? Its like me saying I think Syvester Stallone is a shit actor and you responding by saying, well Arnie is a shitter actor!
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Layksite
Sorry, missed your reply there. True, there is a tendancy to react to things, but so did Vieira at a similar age. Not saying Wenger would definitely be able to sort him out, but I dont think it is beyond the realms of possibility. Then again, the boss has already distanced himself and Arsenal from signing the player.
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haha merlot, i think he was using his teeth to protect his mouth.
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wenger know dex.
i didnt see colombia’s match yesterday. how good was martinez?
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There is endless mileage in Suarez. Biting ffs. Too fucking weird for words. Well in my opinion anyway, though some regard it as just another form of footballing misdemeanour !
If Luis is found guilty today, and I suspect it may not be the foregone conclusion most suspect, it will be a question of the punishment. We can be sure FIFA will not spare the rod.
If he is lucky it will involve Luis not kicking a ball again this year, say a 20 game or so ban. Are they able to demand that he undergoes some form of psychiatric treatment and is signed as ‘cured’ before he puts on his boots again ?
If he is unlucky ? Well it has been (sort of) nice watching you.
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oh not only defensive dexter but also happy to make you pay for tagging people with ridiculous descriptions and then playing the victim…heh..
i suppose had wenger got luis as intended, you wouldnt celebrate his goals and you would have joined the uk media getting on his case …i also suppose that wenger”s hillarious piss-taking comments like say…”it was a momment of passion”, ” we forgot to feed him at colney, the chef was ill” wouldnt be accepted kindly…would they?
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Well its been getting hot in this meeting place, I see. At least no one has burnt down the building. Healthy. Very healthy. Carry on!
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We can chat corruption in the english game, but that wasnt the topic here, nor was peadophile court cases (WTF?)
And I am bitter now? Or the whole english nation? And the whole of Italy is made up of drama queens too?
where did i use the word “whole” ? lol..putting your own words in other peoples messages now?….real classy…shows your upbringing.
as for corruption in the english game…yes whats your problem? you think things are rosy in the epl? of course not…..but lets pus that under the carpet and blow the roof for evil blatter luis and diego … hehe …
you still dont get it do you? the staggering level of hypocricy in uk media? and seems they have manage to brainwash a few of their people too…..
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i am perfectly healthy shotta…just a bit of sarcasm…nothing evil… 😉 dont knwo what motivates dex though…
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Dexter
June 25, 2014 at 10:25 am
Thanks, I will make sure I let you know when you;ve got something, anything, remotely correct, even the time, daye or day…
well my dear i got it more correct than most of you and the aclf and the arseblogs and whatever crap blogs you local boys were inspired to make after wenger’s success and then turned on him instead of telling the media and rivals to fuck off…….. and not only did i get it right but inspired others ( just like luis) to keep the faith …without me you would be lost… 😉
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You have a few issues there Hunter, you completely over react, throw your toys out the pram, move goal posts etc. No wonder you like Suarez so much; kindred spirits!
And I hate to break this to you, but last summer, I was one of the those who wanted Wenger to sign him.
And one more thing, you are to debating what Dolph Lundren is to method acting. (What is it with me and the shit actor thing today)
Shotta; Are you suggesting we all take our clothes off?
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Hunter at 11.21am
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Case closed. You are mental! Like totally dude. What does any of that even mean?
And I recall you slagging Wenger off not too long ago. (But let’s gloss over that one!)
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hehe dexter you are lightweight…i overreact? lol.. you call me a racist and various other personal attacks and you are surpised im holding you to account? lol …. slagging wenger off? ahahaha..nice try…maybe your limited intellect didnt grasp if i were joking or being serious or not……i like to leave people guessing….
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I was one of the those who wanted Wenger to sign him.
and now you want fifa to ban him for life? not very strong character there….do you usually let the media decide for you and the panels and commentators like savage ? 🙂
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Dont worry, there isnt any doubt. You are mental.
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Yep, insane. When did I say FIFA should ban him? Never mind for life?
Wow, it really is a waste of time bothering with you.
You just dont get it.
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@ Dexter June 25, 2014 at 10:13 am
I reiterate, I do not condone Saurez’s biting at all. The hypocrisy Hunter mentions is interesting and bears further investigation. Untold Arsenal has done alot of work over the years regarding media agendas and I have become more aware of it as a result. I believe you are absolutely correct about the way certain players, especially foreigners are treated one way and others (e.g. John Terry) are treated another way. And the treatment of dangerous tackles is sometimes very alarming.
I mentioned the non-English speaking media and their treatment of the FIFA and Blatter stories prior to the world cup. I say English speaking because I read Australian media, South African media, American media, all in English. Whilst they do take their football queues from the media based in England, I do not want to single out just the press in England. I would think the other European countries (not just Italy) would be dealing with Saurez’s incident, but I wonder how they are dealing with it.
When you say:
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To suggest its all the english media is laughable. Just check out a few Italian media outlets!
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It’s either you misintepreted what I was trying to say (in which case, apologies), or you are putting words in my mouth. I merely posed the question: “What’s the reaction to Saurez outside of the English speaking world?”. I did not suggest anything as to how the other European countries are currently covering Saurez as I have not had the time to research it.
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i asked mate..i didnt say….i just asked..you know the difference ? lol…..
so in the space of just two days youve called me a racist , insinuated im gay and now mental…and all that because i admire suarez and suggesting arry shoudl keep his mouth shut when talking about 4 time world cup winners?
fine logic dex….
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Sav from Australia
June 25, 2014 at 11:53 am”It’s either you misintepreted what I was trying to say (in which case, apologies), or you are putting words in my mouth.”
oh he has done it to you too ? …strange….thought i was going mental for a while…HA!
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There’s no shame in being gay mate. *smiley face
And I didnt call you racist. Maybe you need me to put a smiley on all my posts? Xenophobe is what I called you!
Sav
Yeah, thanks for that reply. I am glad you have developed scepticism of the media, all media should be viewed with a heavy dose in my opinion. And yeah, I did misunderstand what you meant. The Suarez thing will be massive in England for various reasons; his past misdemeanours, the fact he plays for an english club and the fact England were in the same group as Uruguay.
It would be interesting to see how the incident has been reported by the Spanish press, given the links to Barca and Real.
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Hunter, how old are you? Seriously.
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There’s no shame in being gay mate. *smiley face
i couldnt tell really….you sound like you know much about it.
as for this :
“And I didnt call you racist. Maybe you need me to put a smiley on all my posts? Xenophobe is what I called you!”
i remind you following:
Dexter
June 23, 2014 at 6:09 pm
Racist!
L.M.A.O..
enjoy your holidays dude…. im old enough to expose and embarass mugs like you..its all you need to know…
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@ Dexter June 25, 2014 at 10:21 am
You are extremely rude in your tone. There is such a thing as a polite debate. I thought perhaps your rude tone was reserved for Hunter due to some past disagreements, but I wonder if it is reserved for anyone with an opinion that differs to your own.
I am not seeking an argument with you. Very simply, I have not stated anything about Blatter being corrupt or not. I have stated that whilst one language group media had a campaign of running articles regarding alledged corruption and calling for Sepp Blatter to step down, other language media groups did not. I repeat. Same day, same time, different language websites. Only English language websites had coverage. I looked it up. Did you?
You are putting words in my mouth.
This:
“So Blatter is not currupt, has never done anything remotely dodgy and FIFa is above reproach and it’s all been fabricated by the english media a few weeks ago?
You need to do a little research, won’t take long. There is a long history of corruption involving Blatter, his predecessors, including Havelanche.”
I have not stated they are/were not corrupt. We had a post about this a little while ago. I admire Havelange and Blatter because they tried to include the rest of the world including Africa and Asia into the global footballing community. As to the their corruption, I am sure that there is answer.
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“The Suarez thing will be massive in England for various reasons; his past misdemeanours, the fact he plays for an english club and the fact England were in the same group as Uruguay.”
you forgot the most important one though…..bitter arrogant “lets show whats right and morally correct” chip on shoulder …..
i will look back the archives see how many journalists were forcing for keanne to be kicked out the game or barton scholes etc.. 🙂
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Oh hunter, you sad deluded soul.
That is you “proof” I am sorry to disapoint you, especially after you spent all that time looking. But that was in response to Anicoll’s comment!
You really are struggling.
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Your saying Chiellini had a chip on his shoulder ? !
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lol sav dex is not rude..just being an english gentleman…everyone else is corrupt we all know that …but epl? hell no…… nevermind we have killers and mafia bosses laundring money through the system….its evil suarez and his biting ruining the game….
…M.E.N.T.A.L….
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Layksite, thanks for the impressions on those RB’s. And I appreciate your well-meaning cautions on Aurier. it serms that many think he has defensive problems to his game, and to be honest, other than Columbia he hasn’t faced top level attackers. So I should be cautious. Sounds like Uchida or Pisczek might be good options.
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anicoll5
June 25, 2014 at 12:11 pm
ahahaha good one actually….
on a serious note..he did cry like evra ….he should be thankful actually ….had luis smashed his cheeckbone he wouldnt be able to go out for partying now in the sumemr.
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sav
What are you on about? Now who is the one misinterpretting shit? And you dont want an argument, but I am rude? Pffft.
If you admire Blatter and havelange, then that is your perrogative, but to me they are corrupt fuckers.
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Dexter June 25, 2014 at 10:21 am
Sav
So Blatter is not currupt, has never done anything remotely dodgy and FIFa is above reproach and it’s all been fabricated by the english media a few weeks ago?
You need to do a little research, won’t take long. There is a long history of corruption involving Blatter, his predecessors, including Havelanche.
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So, please explain to me, how that is rude? I won’t learn unless you educate me!
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hunter13 June 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm
lol sav dex is not rude..just being an english gentleman…everyone else is corrupt we all know that …but epl? hell no…… nevermind we have killers and mafia bosses laundring money through the system….its evil suarez and his biting ruining the game….
…M.E.N.T.A.L….
—- Thanks, you saved me responding to you.
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Anyone else fancy some?
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How about you george?
Put em up…
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hehdex …i wear my badges with honour 😉
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So, please explain to me, how that is rude? I won’t learn unless you educate me!
ehhhhmmmm “you need to do a little research. wont take long”
in one comment you are downgrading sav as if he dont know what he is talking about and needs to look things up…thus presenting yourself in a position of knowledge above sav
i got my mental degree in harvard ….
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If you admire Blatter and havelange, then that is your perrogative, but to me they are corrupt fuckers.
oh wow will you look at that hey !!
and maybe…just maybe the same applies for uk media or f.a or ref association or your whole league system? …just maybe……
is it not our prerogative to think about corruption in uk football in the same manner you think for fifa italy spain germany uruguay argentina…. am i missing anyone ? 🙂
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i also believe that arsenal suffers in the uk because of corruption in the epl ref system as well as deep rooted bias of not wanting to get owned in their own backyard in their national sport by a frenchman who spends peanuts while the door is open to roman and the shieks making the epl/sky carousel bigger and bigger….. but maybe im just mental….
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