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Dont Kid Yourself, The League IS Stronger

People are always banging on about us buying “World Class” players.Whatever that means.

Anyway, that got me thinking about when we did have a team full? The Invincibles?

Or have we ever actually had one?

Was it the greatest team the Premier league has ever seen, or did the stars align and give us a gift from the football Gods? Indeed, was it even a gift or is it a curse, an achievement that means that we will forever be underachieving in the minds of some of our more demanding fans?

I have actually heard people say that we failed to build and progress from that team .What did they want, a season where we won every game? What then, would we have to improve on that?Of course they completely ignore the move to the new stadium ,which ensured a few backward steps would by necessity be taken,rather than  building on what was a once in a lifetime team.

So, for the sake of argument, I want to ask and then answer a couple of questions about the class of 04.

  1.  Would that squad win the league now?
  2.  Would they all have been playing in sky blue by 05?

Would that squad win the league now? I am not sure it would.

I have no doubt that the first eleven would still be the best in the league, but I am not convinced the squad players were good enough to cope with the strength of the current league. I believe every team is better than they were then, including United(controversial I know). We say there are no easy games in the Premiership now; well I think there was then.

Every team has better players and more of them .Even teams at the very bottom of the league can have several full internationals.Some of the players in the bottom half in 04 would struggle to get into League 1 teams these days.Don’t kid yourselves,there were some real dross a decade ago.

They ended the season with one more point than last year’s champions and the runners up. Would they have dropped more than one point in last year’s league? I think they would.

On the other hand, perhaps they would have turned some of the end of season draws into wins.

In 05, basically the same team, finished with seven less points and twelve points behind the Champions. There is an argument to be made that if Chelsea were not a better team, they did seem to have bought a better squad.

The thing we are told now is “Teams win games, squads win championships” .The numbers would seem to suggest that the 04 squad would now be found wanting.

Would they all have been playing in sky blue by 05? The way things have gone, I believe that our team of Invincibles would not now be given the chance to stay together. As soon as Chelsea started paying inflated wages “Cashley” headed for the hills.

Because we have won nothing for eight years, players can claim they are leaving because they are ambitious to win silverware. That was hardly the case for young Mr. Cole. For him it was the money. Simple as that. Imagine how many would have headed up the M6 with the riches on offer today. Remember Ashley was a Gooner; if anyone should have been loyal, it was him.

Does anyone think that if Vieira had been offered £300k Per week and a 4 year deal,aged 29,he would not have flown the coop.Or that greatest of icons Dennis Bergkamp,rather than the one year deal he was offered by us?

I like to imagine Dennis would have stayed.But who am I kidding?

I suppose what I am saying is that people, fans, do not always appreciate just how much the Oil Money has changed the game. My contention is that not only would the greatest eleven ever seen, a team with five(I think)of the best players in their positions in the whole wide world, would have struggled to win today’s league ,but it could never come to be in the first place.

We did have though, didn’t we, us, no one else? Just us. And we will have it forever thanks to a certain French genius

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76 comments on “Dont Kid Yourself, The League IS Stronger

  1. agggggh just celebrated a Chelsea goal

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  2. rafa for united

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  3. the puma announcement is not about us afterall. but still hoping the deal is true.

    intresting game at the bridge. hope chav win with lots of knocks on both sides tonite.
    btw i like benitez. he is by far a better human being than red nose and moanrinhole put together.

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  4. i hope chelski can prove sir szcz right tonite. come on! show them they have no top 4 quality.

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  5. just a little more.

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  6. benitez dont let me down!

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  7. Probably the best possible result for us. Still in our own hands and if Chelsea slip up, we can even go for third!

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  8. forever in our shadow!!!!!!!!!!!

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  9. third place still possible.
    come on aston villa!
    come on everton!

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  10. Could have been worse….it’s in our hands now. Two wins and we’ve done it….

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  11. when this season ends i will release my collection of private poems i have written for dawson and his hand clapping.

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  12. I’ll help you publish ’em h13. Private press edition for PA fans with a nice binding.

    I shall release my homage to Bale’s diving, entitled: “Ode to a cheating c*nt”.

    Yup two massive games now.

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  13. George, sorry I think your topic might have got overwhelmed by events today, will discuss it more tomorrow I hope.

    Couldn’t watch the last minute free kick.
    Mike Dean was so much looking to give FC bale a bale out and stoopid Chavs obliged.
    The team in blue were so lightweight in the 2nd half, an upbeat Villa might get a result if chaves play like that again. All the Saturday games can’t rely on us beating Wigan (hope it, not jinx it) they have to make a game of it and guarantee they get the points for safety.
    It’s back in our hands.

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  14. But he doesnt cheat harry. He plays on the limits. he is smart, like wayne.

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  15. Pundit speak for: he was born in the British Isles. He’s one of us, therefore he’s a “clever player”. Oh yeah, I forgot.

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  16. Anyone notice Mike Dean’s little hop & skip when ade scored?

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  17. He thought they where scoring against Arsenal again for a moment. Had a momentary lapse.

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  18. It’s not the first time Adam – I said yesterday that he is a closet spud supporter

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  19. Thought their second goal was off-side. Plus we have all 3 of these officials next Wednesday, just don’t trust them.

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  20. We have to win well and put the game out of reach of their cheating

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  21. yes harry, and fergie winning 10 points here or there because of this clever “playing on the limits” style of his has no bearing on the results of a football match or even the season. 🙂

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  22. Phew. Back in our hands.

    @ LeoS
    “Because none of that PFA lot would get into the Invincibles XI either.”
    Exactly. Good point. f

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  23. I’m glad the Spuds drew. Chelsea are away to an in form Villa side, which has to either win or draw to stay out of the relegation mire, then they face Everton.

    Spuds are away to Stoke, who also need to earn at least a point to stay in the division, then they have to face Sunderland.

    I’m not counting my chickens, but we face Wigan next Tuesday after they play an FA cup final against City on Saturday. If we beat Wigan and Spuds and Chelsea drop points, we’re in a good position to take third place and automatic CL qualification.

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  24. gains i have seen the light. it is called dawson. this leader of men deserves to be in the champions league. the competition is poorer without him. just think of all them great nights in weekdays where dawson will keep players like cavani, ibrahimovic, falcao, lewadowski, benzema, messi and others in his pocket all night. i have ferguson on record regretting the missed opportunity to sign him. a close call between dawson and vidic. true story.

    dawson and beyond….

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  25. @h13
    One could almost start to pity us Arsenal fans for only having someone like Koscielny to cheer on as opposed to someone of Dawson’s class.

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  26. Oh crap. 3Fs retires a year too early . We owed him a spanking or two. Great timing ferrets face Ferguson. Now that he is gone who to abuse and call name.
    Oh wait maureenwhore is coming to town. Bite your to••••. I hope they don’t bring back that idiot around. Hay Jose, NO ONE LOVES YOU HERE. move along.
    I was Hoping for a draw. 3rd place here we come……

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