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Christmas In July For Arsenal?

Hey Positives,

George is away and he tasked me to share with you the latest Positively-Uncensored podcast. Am very pleased we had our very own “Heady” as a special guest. He was his usual measured, optimistic self, as we discussed with ex-scout Ehab the explosive debut of Gabriel Jesus in helping the Gunners overcome a 2-goal deficit to defeat second-division Nurnberg FC in their preseason friendly. Seems Arteta has gotten his man, as the club makes big moves in the transfer market. Is this as good as it gets or is there more to come?

Feel free to chatter behind George’s back.

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  1. I have started enjoying my team more especially in transfers

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  2. The time between the end of May and the beginning of August is always good for every fan. It is a time for the fans to make wild assumptions, set unrealistic targets and the biggest of dreams.
    Personally I think we stand a chance of winning the CL even though we’re not in it.

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  3. I am worried about the reckless manner we are throwing cash around and we are buying at the very top prices that agents are asking as we seem to be over paying for players IMO.

    It is such a contrast watching someone spend the clubs money with some thought for the next guy to come in and thoughts about future fans watching in 20 to 30 years time as opposed to someone that can only think as far as the next transfer window to spend previously unprecedented amounts on money on bog standard players without a care for who is next.

    Someone mentioned Leeds and Ridsdale, and I’m hoping edu is not cut from his cloth.
    Talking about cut from same cloth would say artetas is primark mouriniho, just like I think klopp is tesco to Wengers waitrose.

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  4. ‘Liverpool fans unfairly blamed for CL final to ‘divert attention’ – French Senate’

    http://www.skysports.com/share/12651162

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  5. Raphina to Barca Bust Bucket FC and Sterling to Chelsea Not Gazprom Inc. upon Thames

    I do miss the days when the arseblaggers and visionaries high on their own arse fumes would loose their grip over the club missing out on the club spunking over £50m on a palpably journeyman Footballer, I am grateful to Levy for signing Paulinho that was comic Gold. A gift for which I was grateful.

    These cretins must be happy as pigs in shite that the club gave up stealing 100 cap German legends or Spanish Saints for peanuts in order to blow £120M on Pepe & Partey. Happy days. Risdale who? I wrote that what these idiots were calling for would make Blackpool look like a well run club.

    I can only hope the above is a wild projection.

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  6. I do understand where JJ is coming from

    Wasting such a rich legacy on purpose is sociopathic and:

    we can say that.

    And also to empathise with those many many football fans who fell out of love with the sport like the writer of the Damned Utd, fell out of love with the sport for reasons that are only complex if you are an idiot.

    I’m hooked.
    If the conscripts forced to kill each other could stop the killing out of love for the sport (TBF it was a good excuse to scare the donkeys into…giving them a vote) then,

    I won’t give up either.

    We should never be afraid of pinning/scaring the Donkey’s or berating incompetent Butler-Wallahs.

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  7. Our squad for the 2022 USA tour:

    Goalkeepers: Aaron Ramsdale, Bernd Leno, Matt Turner, Arthur Okonkwo, Alex Runarsson

    Defenders: Kieran Tierney, Nuno Tavares, Gabriel, Pablo Mari, Ben White, Rob Holding, William Saliba, Hector Bellerin, Cedric Soares, Takehiro Tomiyasu, Reuell Walters

    Midfielders: Mohamed Elneny, Lucas Torreira, Thomas Partey, Emile Smith Rowe, Albert Sambi Lokonga, Granit Xhaka, Martin Odegaard, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Fabio Vieira, Reiss Nelson

    Forwards: Gabriel Martinelli, Eddie Nketiah, Gabriel Jesus, Nicolas Pepe, Bukayo Saka, Folarin Balogun, Marquinhos

    Copyright 2022 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to http://www.arsenal.com as the source.

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  8. The Athletic UK
    @TheAthleticUK
    The Premier League club whose player has been arrested on suspicion of rape has told The Athletic it is not suspending him.

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  9. If partey is the player undergoing police investigation and the club behave as though it was not happening what dies that say about the club’s moral standing?

    Would he actually be allowed into US?

    I would be surprised.

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  10. Innocent until proven guilty, or at least charged? Or perhaps they have information we don’t. At this stage, way too early to make judgment on the moral standing of the club on this matter. If people are immediately suspended or taken away from their livelihoods on the strength of accusation and not being charged, that has horrendous ramifications, especially for those without the resources of the player on question. Victims of rape and sexual assault have rights, so do those accused but not as yet charged

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  11. Totally agree Mandy and as I said before you have to assume that the club involved have been closely involved with the case for sometime and have made decisions accordingly.

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  12. Saw a tweet from George earlier this morning suggesting we were trying to sign Zinchenko, a move that seemed to please him. With regard to the splashing of the cash (and there does seem to be a fair bit being splashed ) I suspect there would be plenty of bidders for the two North London clubs should their present owners tire of the projects. Chelsea for example didn’t have to wait too long for new owner. All a long way removed from the Hill-Woods era.

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  13. Twitter is down worldwide according to zerohedge.com.

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  14. Auston Trusty has joined Championship side Birmingham City on a season-long loan deal.

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  15. some reports that our exciting young winger Omari Hutchinson is joining Chelsea, he was an unused sub 10 times for us last season, that might have convinced him Arteta did not rate him part of process youth, well that and our attempts to sign Raphinha

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  16. also some reports that our young mexican forward Flores, is upset that he is not part of our USA tour squad, as he turned down playing for Mexico U20’s at the world cup so he would be available. the question is was he led to believe he would be part of the squad.

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  17. Ed, if those rumours are true it is all stuff that we have been predicting here for two seasons. If academy players are continually overlooked and Mikel and Edu continue to buy, then why would they stay.
    We had and still have some great youngsters but it looks like they will be wasted under the current administration.

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  18. OT: if stuck in the summertime blues, check out Bill Burr live at Red Rocks. Ol’ Billy boy tears it up for sure …

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  19. well Ian alarm bells rang for me when I seen an interview Per Mertesacker gave during the season where he said something along the lines that a major part of the Academy’s role was, like at Chelsea, develop players that would bring in fees from lesser clubs. Of course we should hope to get fees for those we deem not up to our standards, but that should be a by product of developing lots and lots of quality players, not a major role.
    It says alot about things that Omari Hutchinson who has been with us since he was 12, decides that joining Chelsea is a better development path than staying here under Arteta and process youth.

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  20. by the way Ian I seen one report today that both Hutchinson and Flores were led to believe they would be part of the USA tour squad, and that both did play 45 minutes of our first preseason game, the behind closed doors game, was it Brentford, and that being left out of the tour squad was the final straw for Hutchinson and has left Flores very upset and considering a move. Flores is being linked with a move to Barcelona B.

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  21. seems Arsenal have agreed a £30m fee for Oleksandr Zinchenko

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  22. Arteta says that all the players – last seasons loaned out players – start now with a clean slate

    “The message is: this is a different season and everybody has a clean start, Show us what you can do on the pitch, how you’re going to behave with your team-mates, are you going to make the car faster – yes or no? If you do, you have a chance to be here.”

    I find the “how your going to behave with your team-mates” a whole load of nothing to do with me if I let them leave bollocks from Arteta. After all if they leave they must have misbehaved, or be bad uns, isn’t that what has been pushed out for so many of his unwanted players

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  23. Nuno Tavares one of our key signings last summer is now expected to go on loan to Marseille with the imminent arrival of one of this summers key signings Oleksandr Zinchenko

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  24. “are you going to make the car faster? ”

    If the drivers still got the L plates on, maybe hasnt even passed the test, what then? 8th placed achtcidents?

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  25. well Mills I suppose Arteta is only the tyre changer, and if one set don’t work he will happily put on a whole new set, that he buys of course

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  26. I watched the preseason game last night v Everton and I must say Jesus was a real handful and oh my that was one hell of a finish, a bit eduardo like, ha ha ha. Was also impressed with young Reuell Walters who came on and played left back, despite him normally being a right back or a right sided CB, he was very calm on the ball and read the play well. It was nice to finally get to see Saliba play for our first team, and he was impressive too.

    Must say Everton were woeful, a team of kickers and hoof ballers, what a pity they avoided relegation

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  27. reports that several clubs in the MLS are looking to sign Marcelo Flores from AFC on loan, might be a good move for him, in fact I find it odd that Arsenal do not do loan business with KSE owned Colorado Rapids, send them a few Academy players each season, help both clubs out

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  28. Mikel Arteta on injuries: “We have Kieran with a slight problem, we have Emile with a muscular niggle, Tomiyasu as well & Ben. Vieira has a slight problem in his bone, hopefully he will start to train in the next week or so.”

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  29. confirmed-chelsea-sign-omari-hutchinson-from-arsenal

    I am upset about this.

    I was looking forward to see him play for Arsenal and was keeping an eye on his progress.

    I cant stand this process – what youth has arteta given a debut to in his time here?

    All the talented youth may as well go and find a club that takes you seriously and thinks about your future rather than putting expensive untrusted players ahead of the inexperienced cheap untested youth we have at home.

    There was a template of blooding youngsters in cup games and euro league to give them experience and game time and integrate into the 1st team if possible that has been discarded like used toilet paper.

    I would rather see youth given a chance in these comps than some of the lineups we have put out in very early stages of these competitions where the opposition is not very strong.

    This whole pre-season you mean to tell me you are taking 1 youth player with the 1 st team on tour so you are saying to the rest of them that none of them are in the managers plans at all this season before a serious ball has been kicked.

    this guy and his process is very annoying.

    This season I said to myself will try not to comment any more negativity – I will try be more positive – but its not easy with this guy and some people in above him.

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  30. What is a “slight problem in his bone”?

    Have we bought another injured player who will in and out of the team like a yoyo with one ailment or another?

    AS for the academy players, Arteta has been with us for 3 years and have shown scant interest in them.

    Even ESR, acknowledged to be a great prospect has never been a regular starter, in favour of Arteta’s signings, no matter how awful they are.0

    The academy players are not part of the process, no matter how good they may be. Only bought-in players are because they were chosen by Arteta, whilst the academy players all, come from Wenger’s era.

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  31. This is why I was surprised Eddie signed a new contract when the manager clearly doesn’t rate him and it might now be difficult for him to get away on his own terms.

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  32. so all agreed bar the medical for Zinchenko, will be interesting to see where Arteta has signed him for, is it left back, central midfield or wide left midfield.

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  33. Latest training pics show the young lad Walters wearing No 29. Maybe he’s being fast tracked.

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  34. So we are signing yet another reject from a top team.

    How long before this one finds Arteta’s straight jacket too tight to cope with.

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  35. Well his Bio said he took a coiple of years out because he felt he couldn’t be positive, then Man U wanted to sign him after the gap but couldn’t because of quotas or something so he’s ended up at ours. Looks a clear talent and physically very good for 17

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  36. Oh he started out at Spurs by the way but could have gone to Chelsea I think

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  37. For 32 million the Zinchenko deal seems a very good one at today’s prices especially when you compare it to what we would have had to pay for Martinez. Could be another mistake gone right

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  38. Twwet Quote ‘We’ve known all along that he would improve, the question is how much, and how much failure should we accept to get to that point, and far too much failure has been deemed acceptable. He set us back years and by the time he’s good enough, he’ll jump ship’ I can’t comment on Twitter but would have said, maybe he is as much a City project as an Arsenal one as they are letting us buy some good players to see how he gets on with them.

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  39. Marcelo Flores has joined Real Oviedo on a season long loan

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  40. Ian – you have championed Nketiah for some time now and seem certain that he won’t be given much of a chance, as Arteta has been reluctant to play him, but I’m not so sure. Having followed a few of these pre-season games I wonder whether he might quite often end up playing up top with Jesus in a 442 when we are on the attack. He has also made quite a signifcant physical transformation over the last couple of years, which is really quite noticable: he is now quciker and stronger and this seems to have coincided with his more recent regular run in the side where he has been in impressive form. Sometimes players need time to grow into their strength away from the limelight, so it is just possible that far from discounting him Arteta has seen him as a real project. Time will tell of course, but Im dreaming of 40 goals between them this season in the league.

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  41. I really hope Eddie is included more and if we play 4-4-2 it might even lead to a more exciting brand of football.
    As for a transformation, I think if you look at his record for our youth team and all the England age groups, I think it would be more accurate to say steady progress. He has always been good but when he hit the first team Mikel didn’t give him minutes when he had the chance.
    He is a natural goalscorer and his all round game has improved to go with it, with the havoc Jesus creates in the box I’m sure he will score lots if given the chance.

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  42. I meant more of a physical transformation rather than a skill transformation. He is a natural goal scorer, a real fox in the box. I remember well his two debut goals in a League Cup game. One with his first touch I think! There’s an article based on an interview with him somewhere on line about his physical growth and how he used Lockdown to bulk up.

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  43. Eddie is going to be Jesus back up and he well spend a lot of time on the bench this season. Very similar players if you ask me and cannot see much variation between the 2. I think Jesus is the better player with a better touch, more flair and skill. Maybe Eddie is more clinical and scores more of less chances but essentially I dont think there will be massive variations between them and who is the stricker that will give us something different when plan A (everyone behind the ball and compressing space for counters) is not working.

    I cant see Eddie displacing Jesus as a main or any of the 2 support winger\forward type players on the wing.

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  44. I took my eye off the ball a few weeks ago and didn’t really take on board the signing of Fabio Viera. Leaving aside for the moment the potentially ill-omened news that he already seems to be injured, I know nothing about him as a player. He cost us quite a lot of money and I wondered if any of you could throw any light on him as a player, and what your thoughts are about the role he might have been brought in to play.

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  45. foreverheady I’ve never seen him play but he gave an interview this week where he says he sees himself as a no.10 but that he is happy to play on either wing

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  46. FH, to add, this is a comment on his profile rather than quality, which I can’t really vouch for.

    As Eduardo said, he’s a 10, almost old school in that he’s more about the final pass and moments of invention than controlling tempo, which was more Vitinha’s role.

    So FV could easily play in the same side as Odegaard in a more advanced role, but might also rotate with him (and Xhaka at a push) in that deeper position. He strikes me as a player purchased with the five sub rule on mind—a creator to throw on if we’re running out of ideas.

    He’s also played on the right, which might make for some fun permutations evoking those golden days when we played 10s out wide.

    Physically he’s comically slight, but his frame affords an eel-like slipperiness on the ball. I wouldn’t want him to bulk up and lose that.

    You kind of understand the fee after watching a few performances. Caveat is that it’s the Portuguese league, (although he’s stood out in CL and EL games), and that he has made the sum total of 20 league starts in his entire career. So it looks like we’ve tried to nip in before he really takes off.

    My bold-ish prediction is that we won’t see a ton of him early on, and people will be asking why he’s not playing, while behind the scenes he’s adapting to life at AFC and in a new country.

    The injury sounds like bruising, and he’s training again apparently

    As someone who believes AFC in 07-08 was a high watermark, and envies City for their raft of nimble technicians, I think he’s in a mould that you can never have too much of…but I’m not going to get involved predicting how he’ll turn out.

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  47. I hope he wasn’t scouted by city and we were “asked” to buy him in some sort of we’ll give you our old players and you buy youngsters to blood before they come here.
    We be seeing the start of us being a city feeder club.

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  48. Thanks you guys, that all sounds interesting and something to look forward to. Let’s hope it works out. On a similar sort of theme, I wonder how much the club are expecting of ESR and Martinelli? What do they imagine their trajectory might be? Both have shown moments of real promise, but the fairly persistent chat about a new fancy left winger seems to suggest that they aren’t seen as nailed on answers. I suppose it’s not entirely sensible to just think of a starting XI what with fixture congestion, inevitable injuries and suspensions.

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  49. I think you’re right no team has Eleven’s anymore it’s all about squads, options and the maximum changes for the minimum fall in performance.

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