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Farewell Gunnersaurus. Farewell To Class.

Podcast: Yours truly, Shotta, and Blackburn George, the Arseblagger, discuss the revelations by Daniel Quy of how his father, Jerry Quy, the original Gunnersaurus, was sacked in a totally classless manner by the management of Arsenal and their corporate owners Kroenke Sports Enterprises.

What implications does this have for the future of our football club?

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  1. One of the few? You’d be one of the very few if you supported the club instead of constantly slagging it off. There is absolutely nothing ‘Positive’ about this site – nothing.

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  2. I guarantee the Ghanaian kids who’ve just started supporting since we signed Partey don’t care who’s in the Gunnersaurus suit.

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  3. Alaba can basically play anywhere on the park barring CF

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  4. If Lampard can vastly improve Chelsea’s defence with personnel and coaching why can’t Arteta do the same at the opposite end of the pitch with us?

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  5. So we are all “good Gooners” now? We loyally support the club, regardless of the repeated and continuing violations of our tradition of class. This will end well.

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  6. Well Jules, because anyone can improve defence by simply setting up more defensively. The most limited of coaches ,like Sam and Pulis , can do that. But Frank allows his team to attack and has an abundance of creative players, and they play, they do not sit unregistered at home.

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  7. Jimmy, you are not supporting the club, you are asking us to support KSE. I wont do that. But you are free to, of course.

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  8. I think Arteta is able to find a balance I also think he’s clearly a ring or two above Pubis and Fat Sam. I guess if you’re going to build a house you start with the foundations not the skylight. I get what you’re saying about hope and that is a huge factor, it’s not just admitting that everyone was wrong about him. He’s literally learning on the job and I’ve got a glimmer of hope he can change. I’m not that invested in him anyway it would be great if he succeeded but if not we just move on to the next victim.

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  9. Shame we didn’t by Ziyech when we had the chance. He literally said he wanted to play for Arsenal when he was at Ajax and would’ve been half the price of Pépé.

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  10. Lots of players are quoted as saying that they want to come to Arsenal, but I doubt if it is anything other than empty words, as way to encourage the club to buy them.

    Jimmy, surely, one can support the club, which does not mean we have to be happy with everything it does, so we pay lip service to that support.

    Being positive does not mean accepting things at face value and never criticising.

    You may be delighted with what is going on, but I for one am not and I will continue to express that whether it pleases everyone who reads what I say or not. .

    I would also dearly love Arteta to succeed in what he is doing, but, at present cannot see how.

    Things may change, and, if it does, I will be as delighted as you.

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  11. Not many players of his profile at the time were saying they wanted to come to us in fairness. It was a quote it was a conversation with Kluiverts son I think. Either way he was there for the taking.

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  12. “You may be delighted with what is going on, but I for one am not and I will continue to express that whether it pleases everyone who reads what I say or not.”

    I actually agree with JJ here. Just a shame that it is applied so selectively. If others say what they please, there are accused of supporting KSE, and the point that Jules make here:

    “He’s literally learning on the job and I’ve got a glimmer of hope he can change.”

    often gets ignored. It seems there’s no middle ground where Mikel is concerned. It’s either you’re against him or you’re someone ‘afraid to speak the truth’.

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  13. well labo you indulge in the opposite, anyone who dare question what Arteta is doing has to be against him and want him sacked, no word of dissension can be uttered or yu are not a Gooner.

    There are many of us who want Arteta to succeed, and will be delighted if he does, but are waiting to have him show us he can sort out the problems with our attacking play, problems may I say seem to be down to how Arteta wants us to play, even if he shows it in a few games against the weaker teams, even the EL teams, but despite the low level of opponents there our football is far from inspiring.
    We see games where we are behind and the team sticks to a safety first approach, its paint by numbers football, and it seems like Arteta wants to micromanage every aspect of play, and the players with more of a free spirit such as Pepe, Nelson and Willock, not to forget Ozil, are not for him. Even Saka seems to no longer take on and beat opponents, there is far more caution in his play.
    Despite the array of attacking talent at the club our goal scoring, even our creating of scoring chances, and the number of shots on goal, have dropped alarmingly under Arteta, should we cover our ears and sing la la la, or actually talk about it like adults.

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  14. Care to give an example of that Eddie?

    Some of you guys have a major problem when people disagree with your opinions. You have a problem when anyone disagree with your actual words and have a tendency to think what they have not. Because in your world everything you say are true and those that disagree are stupid.

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  15. Arsenal joins with UN to tackle climate change
    Arsenal Media 16 Nov 2020

    We’re delighted to reinforce our commitment to tackling climate change by becoming the first Premier League club to sign up to the UN Sports for Climate Action Framework.

    The UN initiative aims to bring together the global sports community with a commitment to align with the goals of the Paris Agreement and support the ambition to achieve climate neutrality by 2050.

    The signatories to this initiative, which already include FIFA, the FA and the IOC, aim to support these ambitions by adhering to the following five principles:

    Undertake systematic efforts to promote greater environmental responsibility
    Reduce overall climate impact
    Educate on climate action
    Promote sustainable and responsible consumption
    Advocate for climate action through communication

    In a 2019 study by the BBC and the United Nations-backed Sport Positive Summit, we topped the league table on sustainability among Premier League clubs. One year on, we are proud to build on the work we are already doing in this area and encourage positive climate action to our millions of supporters around the world.

    “Arsenal is committed to leading the way on sustainability among Premier League clubs and we are proud to be the first club to sign up to the UN Sports for Climate Action Framework,” our operations director, Hywel Sloman, said.

    “Together with our partners, we’ve already implemented a number of environmentally-friendly practices across the club. This includes becoming the first Premier League club to switch to 100 per cent green electricity since the beginning of our partnership with Octopus Energy in 2016, and a new partnership with aluminium packaging company Ball Corporation, which is designed to help us and our millions of fans around the world reduce our impact on the environment.

    “We will continue to use the power and reach of Arsenal to inspire our global communities and push each other towards a more sustainable future.”

    Lindita Xhaferi-Salihu, Sports for Climate Action Lead at UN Climate Change, said: “Football inspires so many of us around the world and there is a remarkable potential for the game to become greener, more climate resilient and lead by example for millions of global fans. We are delighted to welcome Arsenal as the first Premier League club to the UN Sports for Climate Action community, as we raise awareness of climate change and use this opportunity to make a difference together.”

    Arsenal and sustainability

    In recent years, we have implemented a number of environmentally-friendly initiatives across the club.  

    We became the UK’s first football club to install large-scale battery energy storage in 2018. The battery storage system can power Emirates Stadium for an entire match, or the equivalent of 2,700 homes for two hours 
    Since 1999, more than 29,000 trees have been planted at our training centre in London Colney to create the Colney Wood
    We have installed a water recycling system at our training centre to reuse water that comes from the pitch – in the last year, we have recycled more than 4.5 million litres of water
    Following the launch of the partnership with Octopus Energy in 2016, we were the first Premier League club to switch to 100 per cent green electricity
    In partnership with Camden Town Brewery, we were the first Premier League club to trial the reusable cup scheme during the 2018/19 season. This scheme became fully integrated at the start of the 2019/20 season, saving the use of approximately 20,000 single use plastic cups per game when Emirates Stadium is full
    In October this year, we launched a partnership with global aluminium packaging company Ball Corporation designed to help the club and our millions of fans around the world reduce their impact on the environment
    Our training centre is now 95 per cent single use plastic bottle-free
    We have introduced more water dispensers across all sites – saving 150,000 single-use plastic water bottles per year 
    We have reduced energy by installing automated LED lighting at all club sites 

    Copyright 2020 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to http://www.arsenal.com as the source.

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  16. You once called me a c*** for simply refusing to change my opinion to that of yours. Remember that?

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  17. And I have been critical of Arteta on numerous occasions. The problem is that some of you want scorched earth.

    I never tell others what to say, I disagree with their points of view. Learn the difference!

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  18. But Labo, you do tell people what they shouldn’t say, and how often they shouldn’t say it.

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  19. see there you go again, lumping everyone who has a different opinion to yours on Arteta of wanting scorched earth, you really are laughable at times, its not a chip you have on your shoulder, its whole damn plank.

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  20. I’m not going to reply to George because he will just pretend I said something else. And since I took you calling me c*** off the table, I guess you’re not going to give me an example then Eddie?

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  21. I wrote “some of you guys” and you really read that as “everyone”. Lol. Let me be laughable.

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  22. where have you taken me calling you a cunt off the table,

    and just to clarify on calling you a cunt, I have no recollection of it at all, but that may be because I don’t tend to dwell on the trivial matter of the hurt feelings of someone being precious, but if you have a link to said incident then I would gladly review it and if an apology is warranted then it would be forthcoming.

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  23. Elneny has tested positive for Covid according to his agent.

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  24. Dale Johnson
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    16 new positive COVID-19 tests confirmed in the Premier League.

    The most there’s been in one week … from a few hundred fewer tests due to those away from club duties.

    Oh, now for the players to return from international duty….

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  25. With a few well known exceptions, what has become of the strong, defense of Arsenal values that used to be the hallmark of the comments section of this blog. We used to be strongest defenders in the blogsphere of positive, attacking football, and of Arsenal being a club of integrity that treated its people with class. Since the Kroenkes got rid of Wenger many of us have become timorous and cowardly especially since the arrival of Arteta.

    As I’ve often confessed, I badly wanted Arteta to succeed. But what has he done to earn our unconditional support? When Arteta first stopped selecting Ozil, that was the first warning sign, especially after his lame excuses and deflections when asked why in his pressers. Following from that was his spiteful and vindictive refusal to name Ozil to both the Premier league and Europa league squads. But Pablo Mari, who will never play again before the the season ends registered. This was the clearest possible signal hat Arteta’s system has no place for one of the finest Attacking Midfielders in England and the best player at Arsenal. Unlike Leicester, Everton and Chelsea, our top-6 rivals with relatively new managers, Arteta has no intention of playing positive, attacking football. Only the willfully blind refuse to see that Artetaball is bad for the club.

    There are many troglodytes and dinosaurs in the fanbase who think this defense-first football is the way to go but I never imagined positive fans would keep quiet and give support and reject this travesty, this debasement of Arsenal awhich has a tradition of being one of the most progressive football club in England and the world..

    As for treating Jerry Quy and Gunnersaurus like dirt, if Arteta and the Kroenkes could do that to Ozil do you expect any better treatment of those of modest means, like most of us, who sacrifice a lot to support the club? If you can’t stand up for Gunnersuarus against the club then take whatever you get.

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  26. Shotta, as usual fans pick and choose who to defend and who to get upset about based on their perceived worth to the team. If a player is deemed surplus to requirements then however virtuous you feel as a fan you have no qualms about them being shown the door.
    Sokratis is a prime example of this, he was obviously lacking in certain departments but always gave 100% effort and usually put a decent shift in even when asked to play RB. Also scored a decisive goal away to Portsmouth on a route to winning the FA cup. Where’s the pearl clutching about his omission from the squads?
    We’re all guilty of this in one way or another to some degree, that’s why I find it hilarious when fans moan about the lack of loyalty in football.
    I remember the WOBs constantly moaning about how Wenger mistreated the likes of Park and Perez and obviously their twisted view of the Gnabry situation. It’s football it’s cutthroat. Look how Wojiech Szczesny was treated after his misdemeanor. He’s now 1 for Juve and we’ve had 3 bang average keepers since. Even AW made mistakes and he’d been in the job a lot longer than 12 months!

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  27. Some good points there Jules, but it highlights fans inconsistency more than anything else. This is of course 100% correct. We fans tend to defend our favourites first. However, the ethics and morals being watered down should be more important than any player. Papa has not been lied about and Arsene did not lie about Szczesny.

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  28. Yeah all depends how Arteta defines ‘footballing reasons’ it’s obviously something to do with money but I wouldn’t be surprised if he feels like he’s been undermined by Özil, the Gunnersaurus PR spin is a good example of just how much he’s not arsed upsetting the applecart, maybe he thought he needed to do it to stamp his authority same with Guendouzi. Seems like it’s had the adverse effect. It’s just made him look weak and insecure imo. Guess it’ll all come out soon enough.

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  29. Yes, it will come flooding out the moment Ozil’s contract is up.

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  30. Shotta my friend. .

    First we were told to move on from this story.
    That didn’t work for George Graham or Tony Adams or any other talking head discussing Arteta’s moment of self-castration non-stop since Arteta declared himself a “failure as a coach”. The media have been discussing this story non-stop. However you look at it this was a disaster of a call from Edu & Mikel.

    Jeezus.

    People can continue to avoid it but we all saw the team on the pitch lose faith in his defensive system as a) Klopp told all the other coaches how to beat it (was arteta listening?) and b) he announced to the world that he was a coaching failure re: Ozil,

    which obviously went down well with his squad.

    How does one destroy ones reputation with a group of spoilt footballers weeks after winning a trophy? Well: now you know! As we’ve all seen it. On the pitch. Against Villa. And since the PL squad was announced.

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  31. The clickbaiting blood hounds have picked up the scent already which is remarkable months after a cup victory.

    If Arteta loses the NLD the crows already perched upon his shoulders will be pecking at his eyeballs.

    If he wins it he’s got a little time to try turn it around.
    Which is where I disagree with George and Shotts is on Edu’s plan: he fully intends to buy an AM after Willian has already failed spectacularly. To Spend lots of money on players signed up to certain agents. That has always been the plan.

    So they are going to buy a new AM.
    Who might perform half as well in his first season in English football as a veteran ozil who’d probably only be fit for half a season, to perform less well then that ozil. At great cost! Squids in. Bob’s yer uncle!

    What’s happened to the Black Scarfist Movement?
    Where they always a PR vehicle directed by the Kronke’s. Is that why we’ve seen no bill boards, heard diddly squat from these shitebags since the K’s bought up all the shares?

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  32. And nope Arteta can’t “build up the attack” as he has not “sorted the defence”

    Ignore the ozil call.

    You don’t sort out your defence by selling your best keeper!

    Simples!!!

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  33. I don’t think there was much choice. We needed to generate the money. I think Martinez is better than Leno on form but that form might not carry on especially when crowds return.

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  34. We could have put Leno on the market, he’s ok, but that’s it. That said, he’s more ok than some we have had. Well when I say “some” I mean Almunia.

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  35. I’d prefer Leno in goal and Partey rather than Martinez and no Partey. If Martinez is as consistently good as we’re all making out why was he never given a proper go instead of wasting money on the likes of Cech and Ospina?

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  36. We should’ve just kept Szczesny after he kept the most clean sheets in Europe and kept Allison on the bench when on loan at Roma.

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  37. Jules, maybe if we had sold Leno instead, we could have had Partey and someone else as well?

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  38. We can only comment on what we see and hear.

    We saw our team win the FA Cup and beat Man$ity, Liverpool and Chelsea and then Liverpool again and we then thought that the problem was solved, despite the fact that in all of those games we parked the bus and played defensively without much attack.

    We now come to this season and find that we are doing the same, but we have been sussed out.

    Yes, we have 4 wins, but apart from the Manure win, when we were in truth the better of 2 poor teams, the rest of the games have been dire, especially in the attacking sense.

    So what we now see is not a very good defensive strategy, together with no attacking strategy.

    There is little or no progress and fans like myself are fearful of what will happen when the season restarts and we complete the run of difficult matches coming up.

    We all have the same hope and wish that our team will improve and fight its way to the top, but we can either delude ourselves into thinking that that is what is happening now or speak out because we can see that it seems not to be,

    We all support Arsenal, but perhaps some of us believe in calling a spade a spade, rather than a jewel-encrusted implement.

    On a different subject, why is it that footballers appear to be bereft of responsibility so that when they are away from the club all common sense goes out fo the window?

    None of the highly paid players should ever place themselves in a position where they can catch Covid and yet so many have.

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  39. I think we got 17m for Martinez did Leno cost 25m? Either way it looks at the moment like we sold the wrong keeper.

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  40. Sam Dean
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    Willian will have to return a negative covid test before he can train at #AFC again after he travelled to Dubai. Arsenal are trying to establish full facts of the trip. International travel is restricted except in “limited circumstances” eg work/education

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  41. As anyone who has ever played in defence will know a good keeper will give their defence and team confidence. You know that he will come and collect when needed, he will crash through strikers and will scare opposition strikers and so then tend to overplay or snap at shots rather than calmly stroking the ball into the net. In other words the illusion would be self perpetuating defence plays better strikers play worse. All great keepers have this, Emi gave me this whereas Leno always has me fearing the opposition thinking dodgy keeper. He is obviously a very good keeper but all PL keepers are but he never gives me confidence.
    Emi wasn’t the cure to all to all our problems but he was definitely a better keeper and as a more experienced keeper Leno would be able fetched more in the market anyway.
    I’m sure Mikel said towards the end of last season when Leno was coming back to fitness that the no 1 was Emi’s to lose obviously he changed his mind.
    We have seen Mikel make a few mistakes on crucial decisions but he is a young inexperienced Manager and so at the moment you have to hope that going forward he will start getting things right the politics of the club maybe are a different matter and will not change without a change of owners.

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  42. I see Giroud scored 2 goals for France tonight to bring him to 44 goals, just 7 behind Henry in their all time scorer list, Giroud with 104 caps, Henry got his 51 goals in 123 caps

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  43. Nketiah added another 2 goals to his all time top scoring record for England U21’s

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  44. Jordan McEneff’s brother Aaron has been called up to the Republic of Ireland squad, he only gained clearance two weeks ago, as he was a former Northern Ireland U21 player. He had a fine league of ireland season, helping Shamrock Rovers win the title unbeaten.

    Jordan McEneff plays for our U23’s.

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  45. Jules: We can disagree on tactical decisions made by AW but as the historical evidence now confirms he always make his decisions in the best interest of the club combined with strict adherence to a firm set of values. In that regard he would never throw a player under the bus even if that player was undermining the collective. Speaking of tactical choices, for example, we had people going to extremes about Cech/Ospina as if signing a Neuer-like keeper for £80-£100 million (Ederson/Alisson money) would have made us title contenders. Splurging on a high-prized keeper with a low probability of overhauling Man City or Chelsea is a poor footballing and business decision in my opinion.

    Apart from never acknowledging that Wenger operated within a budget set by the Board, it is remarkable how few fans recognize that he was not only responsible for the playing staff but for an entire club that employed approximately 650 persons. No wonder the blaggers and the Scarfists barely have any concern for the shocking treatment of Gunnersaurus or the 55 employees the Kroenkes sacked last summer including long-serving scouts who are critical to the footballing future of the club.

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  46. Finsbury: I wish I shared your optimism that Arteta will spend on an AM, if even he has the clout to get the Kroenkes to pony up. His vision of football to me is a hybrid of Moyes and Pep; structured and organized. It has nuances; the team can press high-up or they can sit back deep in our half but the primary goal is to prevent the other team from playing rather than being a proactive approach where the team demands possession and take the initiative to create chances. It is at heart a negative, cautious philosophy. We shall see more as the season unfolds. An AM is a luxury player in such a system. That is why the option of binning Ozil was not unthinkable.

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  47. Sead Kolasinac has tested positive for coronavirus, according to reports in Bosnia

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  48. Shotta, I’ve never heard a single Arsenal fan ever say we should spend 80-100m on a keeper, we don’t have that kind of money. I was and still am a huge fan of AW but my point was he made mistakes and selling Wojiech Szczesny was definitely one of them. My point was even managers of Wenger’s experience make mistakes so it’s bizarre to think a manager with one years experience won’t. All the rest of it regarding the way the club is being run now shouldn’t be a shock to anyone, the writing has been on the wall for years we’re just falling in line with all the rest of them.

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  49. Dan Critchlow
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    Arsenal academy defender Mark McGuinness made his Ireland u21 debut today, in a 2-1 win over Luxembourg. He assisted the winning goal

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  50. Interesting that Fabianski seems to be first choice for Poland – Szczesny on bench again.

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