The worst team in the league had 31 attempts at goal. an all time Arsenal PL record.
We were Shite.
Th-th-th-that’s all folks.
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@pauln71 – he seems like the kinda coach that is mentally draining.
I said a poor mans Mourhiniho many a times because that is the most accurate discription of his management style. This guy should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Benitez never mind the greatest manager of Arsenals history.
As bad as Arsene’s last season was and it was bad he had to contend with everything (negativity from media, Fans, everyone with a pulse felt like at one time) that he had to deal with.
This guy has almost come in on a clean slate with good will and backing from the board,media and fans.
How many months in and AFTV mob are starting a new campaign, talk about out of your depth. How do you say David Moyes in Basque!
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Mandy if you require rigerous accuracy then yes Joe Hart won it inbetween the two golden glove awards for the Gunners – the season inbetween The Arsenal came 3rd in the league with 35 GA which is one less then the season after. To be clear they won the GG the season after with 36GA.
So many thanks for helping me to objectively clarify with data, stating the simple record, that we have THREE good seasons of solid good defending there in the record from the last decade.
I found that to be a very helpful & clarifying thread.
THREE top quality seasons of defence there in the recent past.
Blimey.
no denying it unless your measure of an acceptable or good defence is the invincibles.
Cheers.
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It’s almost as if Arsene built what is essentially a title winning quality defence but wasn’t given the funds or opportunity to find adequate replacements for his two World Class CBs (and also his CMs).
Given the money spent in recent seasons, given the record of THREE good seasons in a row in the recent past when it comes to the old defending:
This is a fair comment.
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I really don’t get why anyone is down on Emery, after all he is doing better than Wenger’s last season, and it has been decided that this is how Emery should be judged, not on how good a job he is doing, just if its in any way, even a minor way, better than Wenger’s worst season.
I seen someone mention about how Emery was lauded for having AFC at our fittest ever last season, well that was before the blow out near the end. Well hasn’t several of the fitness guys been moved out, scapegoated by Emery, and I seen one of the remaining guys is being head hunted by a club in Europe and that the lad is keen to get out while he can.
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Last season’s GA was 51!
Plus seven compared to the season before, GA 44 which is essentially when both Kozza and the BFG were no longer fit to be the starters.
So the decline in 16/17 was easy to identifythen as now as the transition period to replace those two (plus a new midfield).
How do we explain the increase of 7 more GA last season when Emery came in and spent a lot on the squad churn courtesy of Daddy Raul whilst his tactics according to idiots and liars improved the team?
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2/3 or whatever it is, Shouldn’t every season be a season of good defending for a club with aspirations I hope Arsenal have? Other teams consistently defend as a team better than we do these days, not all have superior resources.
One bad season is one too many, a season of a GD of 44 followed by 2 of 51 is poor, whatever excuses, as the decline wasn’t remedied
Wenger and Emery have both been guilty on this front. Emery still has time to do something about it and perhaps save his career at this club, I hope he does just that despite a lack of current evidence of any such progress
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Just re-read Finsbury, last seasons GA was indeed 51, as was the season before, not just Emery with that slightly dubious distinction, and 44 the season before that, 35-36 in the years you mention with the Golden Gloves, that’s what I mean by an unarrested decline in such issues.
I dread to even think where this seasons GA could end up if things aren’t corrected by whatever means . I am hoping, probably against hope that this weekend can serve as some sort of tipping point against otherwise decent players so regularly engaging in destructive kamikaze defending
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Mandy, mate you were talking about ten years or more of poor defending apologies if I misread, but the last two seasons under AW had more GA as you had one pensioner and one one legged CB manning the ship as Holdig and Chambers were given an opportunity to be their heirs.
And both of them look better then the current teobsenior CBs that Daddy Raul bought in (Sven too!) so:
Clearly the above was the right way to go about it.
I don’t understand your complaint about the continuous decline over a decade now abrogated to the last few seasons – we’ve gone over this transistion at the back many many times now.
All of which is irrelevant when the coach has completely dissolved the midfield.
You could have Bobby Moore and a shrugging atlas at the back but they’d still be fooked in this team!
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“Shouldn’t every season be one of good defending”
If that was your demand when the club had a negative transfer spend and three teenagers in midfield, I’m not surprised you were so dissapointed that you almost missed out on the careers of the BFG and Kozza over the last decade.
The attempt to defend the original complaint about the defending over the last decade can’t be defended! As there was plenty of the good stuff in a team that was built when the last manager was allowed to have a transfer budget.
I’m glad we’ve sorted that one out.
Though I had no complaints at the time myself – sure could’ve done with a different plan in maybe one or two matches, plenty of debate to be had there but none of it was ever down to “poor defending”.
After all the above I think we all deserve to affirm what is “poor defending”:
Conceding a record number of shots to the bottom club in the league.
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Eduardo
Shad Forsyth is being headhunted? By whom?
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When we look at it, no matter how much the populist aftv, Billy Blaggwort, middle management or anyone else tries to dismantle what Wenger and the previous players did, they cant. The stats show it, the trophy case shows it. All have to live up to it, or bugger off. Theres no other way or we see a massive collapse into mediocrity at AFC, we are stuck with those dualities.
Those who supported Weng were told by the populists and extremists (LG etc)that we were deluded/cultists and happy busers or whatever. But the jokes on them. They were too blind and emotional to see what we had- and didnt realise that someone had to llive up to it, surpass it or we stagnate and fall to a bad place. Ironically they didnt know what they were calling for? It seemed so simple. Anyone can do that job. Who was deluded?
We all know at this precise point its fallen. The only one who can save it are the players, if they ignore the managers game plans. But at what price? Dropped, sold, whatever.
Weng left the club in a place where we could have jumped back into the CL secured all sorts of players etc kept plenty and got ourselves out of the last slight dip the season before. The new manager had a vision, whatever it was it didnt work, in fact its left a massive scar over the summer, it was a massive summer of discontent.
But this is a serious moment for the club, at all levels, as if mediocrity,( where we now) establishes itself as a norm, then the whole club will change, everyones lives will change. Including Emerys and his future.
One bloke a few years ago scorned me on here for saying I write about things that are not directly involved with the club, but now we see they are. He was welcome to his opinion. Those things interest me (even if I am full of shit to some)as much as others are interested in other elements of the game. But to say things are not connected is just not looking.
Life is very very complicated, everything we do, even the most simple job is so complex we could not describe it all, whats happening and its in and outs if we had to. Everything is affecting everything all the time, at the most subtle level to the most obvious.
Whoever wanted Emery to fail at the beginning was either not really an Arsenal supporter. Everyone I know wanted him to succeed. All you guys, everyone I know.
But its failing, its mediocre,to me thats a failure, its the wrong transition. I dont need to tell anyone what Im seeing as youre seeing it too. Its not even the most painful moment, its just dull, and hopeless, boring and wrong and wasting time. We might as well have got Allerdyce in.
But the consequences of this could be really really bad if something isnt done. Either emery has to understand its not working or get somebody else in to make it work. No-one is bigger than the club, not anyone. The players know it. Some of us know it. And the others will eventually find out.
I dont like speculative articles in journalism as its a bet situ, all looks in to the future are. But here we are, if this continues how an it get better? It cant. I support the club, not this bullshit. And that was bullshit yesterday.
I dont want this, you dont, the players dont, the owners dont, the populists dont, the extremists dont, Emery doesnt. But its happening. Its like a marriage that has to end in divorce as the marriage has irreconcilable issues. Each side has a vision and they dont harmonise, they cannot find each other as they are different and not meant to be together. The players didnt ask for this. I ask, the people who employed him, what do they know about football?
Its destroying players, their confidence, them wanting to stay at the club, its affecting the fan base all over.
Like you I keep hoping its going to turn around. Ive spent a lifetime with people hoping they will change and not be bullies or psychopathic or not very nice but they dont. They dont get a eureka and come an apologise or change their way to make for a harmonious life. We are going at different speeds of consciousness.
Another three draws? What then? A spanking at Old Toilet? A upset in the League cup? Where will the club be then? People said that Weng was out of touch, he wasnt, if he is then everyone except Klopp and Pep are. But both Pep and Klopp were out of tough then at their previous clubs? Klopp was for sure.
Either the owners(club) have to admit this, Emery has to admit this or the players. Its not a big deal. It does take strength, but of these people dont love the club then wtf are they doing here and their time will come sooner or later.
Do we sometimes have to do the right thing and look at the bigger picture? The bigger picture is a weird thing: at very very basics a sport, that is a global brand, with global responsibility, thats in a set competition that has to win to survive and stay on the hamster wheel. So why are we off the wheel for a failed vision?
It needs a better vision, better understanding, liberty for the players, belief that even the most difficult team can be beaten, not fear and loathing and disharmony and limited liberties.
Question is when will this end? Two weeks? November? Christmas or the end of the season?
Emery will stay but he has to change and understand its failing.Its failed we are mediocre. Beating some teams in pre season means nix.The rest has been scraping by.Spit and a prayer isnt enough at this level. I feel sorry for the man, I really do. Must be horrible to go to bed and wonder whats going on. Maybe he feels lonely as fuck and in a corner. Theres no need. Everyone of us wants this to work. This is top league football, what can i do about it? No matter how I call for sportspersonship its not coming back. This just needs a tiny bit of dignity, a bit more humbleness a bit of care, instilling some belief, then people will grow…not setting it up to fail. And thats whats happening , its a deep masochism, and that unhealthy.
Look just my/an opinion, just an experiment in looking at it. Just a perspective. Hopefully I wrong.
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shard not Shad Forsyth, one of the other fitness guys, actually think its one of the guys who came with Emery last summer
Dean Burgess left in the summer amid reports that he was very unhappy that the fitness department was blamed by Emery for the bad run of form at the end of the season.
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Mills if the players ignore Emery’s instructions they will be out of the team and the club will try to force them out the door too. Either that or the club will show Emery the door, its always been thus
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Full Time: Man Utd Women 0-1 Arsenal Women
sub Danielle Van De Donk with the winner on 89 minutes
the BT sports commentators fuming that AFC won, wanted a utd win all night, AFC by far the better team and fully deserved the win.
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Ed, then we can only expect further mediocrity until something gives. When you lose the dressing room, you find the door to leave.
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Mills, I think it will end the moment the powers that believe beyond all doubt he is incapable of making the Champions next year. That will obviously depend on results, I suspect they would like to see how he handles a team with Hector , holding and now Tierney, having put a decent run together last year with two of those players, whether he can do it again.
Might also depend on who is available to the club, but Emery has a break clause at the end of this year, it would not cost too much to sack him.
A man relatively cheap to lose, replacements cheap, easy to blame Ivan for the appointment in the first place, against a backdrop of a place in the CL, a ruthless bunch in charge, it could go horribly wrong very quickly for Emery of things do not improve, he is in an extremely vulnerable position, he won’t be kept on sentiment that’s for sure.
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Nacho, Kos, Rambo, Mkhi, four of our most experienced players all wanted out after one year of Emery, the club also had to promote Freddie to first team coaching staff to try and get youths intergrated into the first team squad, so problems with both age brackets in the squad.
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Nice little joy boost for the women’s game to end like that. Commentators sure sounded disappointed even though neither seemed to have Manchester accents to me.
I’m reliably informed we’ve never been a particularly popular club down the decades, but I’d guess the relentless media negativity and distortion through the Wenger years exacerbated things considerably.
Oh well, feels good when you can say ‘fuck em’ on back of a late, richly deserved win.
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Funny as ever that hanging on for dear life, with plenty of good defensive work admittedly, means you are extremely unlucky to concede late on and lose.
Maybe Utd created stuff in first 30, which I didn’t watch. All I saw though was one side playing plenty of good football against a dogged defensive outfit, building to a heck of a crescendo before goal came.
Well done the women, they’re a quality team, led by world class player in Little. Good news is she looks fitter and stronger than last year. Often seems to take full year of football after ACL to get back to best, if you’re lucky.
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so can Emery risk heavy rotating for the EL game on Thursday, away to Frankfurt is not some cakewalk some seem to think it is, I’ve seen many of our bloggers and big twitter accounts demand Emery goes with the youth v Frankfurt, they seem to think these Germans are some sort of part time outfit.
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Thank you Mills for that comment.
I fear the damage being done at this time will lead to continuous grieving for us football fans. i hope I am wrong but I fear Raul is doing his master’s bidding same as Woodward.
Was Emery Raul’s fall guy before he brings in Maureen? After absolute shite the desperate fans will be grateful for the upgrade to shit on a stick? How on earth could he have chosen such an unsuitable coach for such a squad otherwise? What ever these nasty people are: they are not stupid. But they certainly think that the fans (us plebs) are!
I fear Shotta is correct yet again on this one and Billy the Blagger is making unpleasant squealing PR type noise which supports this consideration.
Ah well.
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Mandy, yes youre right. Summing up whats going on. AFC love a scapegoat one way or another. Problem FC at the moment.
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Rich all last season be in on BT or the BBC the commentators never tried to hide their dislike for Arsenal Women’s team or how disappointed they were at their wins. Only thing that stopped it being full on hate was that a few former Arsenal Women’s players done some analysis of games now and again for them.
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Thanks fins, also think youre right. The bigger picture keeps expanding the more we all are looking at it.
Mourinho at AFC, the Wobs dream. More damage? Certainly will test us ! Arrrgh!
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Yep.
It’s going to be very easy for the PR consultant to blame Ivan for Raul’s appointment of Emery:
That meme is ready to go!
Emery done. Mourinho next?
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Mkhitaryan has rediscovered his best form since leaving us 16 days ago, he starred for his country in their qualifier success, scoring and assisting and yesterday he scored and assisted for Roma in their win too. A couple of banging goals in those two games too. Its almost as if he was stifled at Arsenal
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Frankfurt are good, solid unit, fans make loads of noise. Only just missed out on the EL final against us by the skin of their teeth.
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jeez as much as I think Emery is not the man for Arsenal, God save us from ever bringing in Jose, I know I call Emery Joselite, and having Joselite is bad enough, but full on Jose, no no no, I say again no
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Please, never José! I am hoping that even if some in the club were willing, he would prove too expensive with his little ways.
My guess, when it happens, from Paddy, Freddie, Arteta, or that chap from Bournemouth, maybe Allegri a dark horse, but an expensive dark horse , unless edu gets one of his mates
Unless of course Emery is just doing what he’s told, and will be given time, but cannot see it , this club have spent heavily and I am sure CL football is rather desirable. I doubt if it went unnoticed upstairs how Emery seemed to sacrifice what looked an easy top four position for a euro trophy
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Mandy when it happens Edu might get in the Brazil manager
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If we’re struggling at Christmas, I think it’ll be Freddie for remainder of year, with possibility of full time if it goes well. Buys upper management thinking time and bit of extra slack from fans initially.
Extra bonus being the very close relationship with youth players from last year.
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Brazil manager! really hope he knows what he’s doing if he appoints him
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Ed, I definitely recall commentators being off about us last year.
Genuinely perplexed by it. Men’s game is one thing, we basically had two decades of distortion and bullshit against us, but women’s? I think the lies and crap got right into the national psyche, football culture wise at least. I see it in youth games from refs as well.
Swear it isn’t paranoia either. Speaking of which, don’t know if you recall my moaning about the ex-prem linesman I used to follow on twitter who is a fervent Liverpool fan.
Came up on my timeline the other day and he’s now gone full hog with Liverpool header on account. In general, found him to be quite the arsehole and as one-eyed a fan as can be.
Just makes me wonder, really does. Looked him up and he did plenty of their games back in the day.
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“he would prove too expensive with his little ways”
Mandy that’s by big fear! Not the defending, (hope I didn’t offend above when trying to clarify my appreciation of some of our recent teams).
Pepe’s fee. The reported cut for agents.
Suarez loan fee. The reported cut for agents.
Luiz fee (was he worth a fee after having been dropped for so long??? Two seasons?) The reported agents cut.
Etc.
I’ve never been a fan of the modern agencies active in football and if these conglomerates have succeeded in one of their obvious goals given the copious “PR” and got their mitts into our beloved Arsenal, I’ll be less enchanted.
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Not as worried about Frankfurt as a prem away game.
Have vague impression it’s an away prem problem we have not an away problem full stop. Based pretty heavily on fine results at Napoli and Valencia last year, Milan year before, and generally doing much better on road in Europe, I think at least, than in prem last 3 years.
You know it, I believe refs contribute massively to that. Fouls you might get 7/10 times in Europe, for defenders using arms in air, or particularly for making contact from behind when player is shielding ball, we probably get about…3/10 times in prem. Huge impact.
Could be coincidence but even remember a nice goal in Europe last year when one of Laca or Auba leapt well with centre back, flicked ball on, and other despatched it. In prem, think both get disheartened by being clumped in air every time and getting nowt each time.
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Joe Montemurro ? Only arsenal manager to win a league title in recent times – Way better than Jose
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Finsbury, can assure you I will never be offended by appreciation of our teams
The agents fees certainly seems to be creeping in, hopefully Freddie’s work can bring a few of our own through and reduce that, of course even our kids will demand agents fees, but not of the level it seems we paid this summer, allegedly.
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Top comment up top Mills. I particularly loved this mental munchy:
“It needs a better vision, better understanding, liberty for the players, belief that even the most difficult team can be beaten, not fear and loathing and disharmony and limited liberties.”
What we currently have are a head coach fearful of losing and players “scared” to follow their initiative because Emery already showed he don’t tolerate defiance.
What I don’t understand is the obsession with “Emery need more time”. That ship has sailed with his contract up for review in a few months. So for all intents and purposes he is currently coaching the team to save his job. There’s team conceding far less shots at goal with players inferior to Bellerín, Holding and Tierney many see as the panacea.
Last season even with Bellerín and Holding we were sloppy in defense. Just like now Auba’s goals spared our blushes. We also had worldclass Aaron Ramsey to call upon when the going got tough, nor the experience of Mkhitaryan to solidify our midfield. Özil will continue to get crumbs. Holding will likely be part of of back 3 which could mean Ceballos being sacrificed because Guendouzi currently look to be first name on the matchday sheet.
Arsenal’s best run least when we conceded 1 goal in 8 matches…. we had Ramsey, Özil and Xhaka in midfield and yes even the much maligned Mustafi in defense. There was no Holding or Bellerín.
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Not writing Emery off quite yet, i genuinely hope he succeeds, but that is looking a distant prospect. it is still possible he is….trying…to implement some sort of policy from the top, but not sure that really fits with the evidence and even if he is, he is not currently doing it well. Are there mitigating factors we don’t know about, there usually are, but how significant are they?
But ECL qualification, is the clear and stated goal, the farm has been bet, if Emery cannot deliver, he is toast from the moment they decide that.
They royally screwed up the Europa final, players running around confused. That has continued to this season, culminating last weekend, though it could get worse, at least we got an away draw in that game!
Really think emery will do well to last into the new year, unless things drastically improve.
If he is over disciplining, complicating, creating issues with talented rich young players, I am sure such info will go upstairs.
Really does not look good for UE , unless he gets a run going like last year, but when the injuries hit, he couldn’t sustain that either. I fear this team could take a real thumping , perhaps to someone unexpected, that always be could precipitate action in the event of suitable replacements.
I don’t think the club do all he demands, if they did, we would perhaps have Benega and Nzonzi in the team. If they were that enamoured with him, they may have considered extending this summer, tho that wouldn’t make a lot of sense.
Prepare for change I would say, even if the club would want to avoid the hiring firing tag wherever possible
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Morning everyone. Thanks Labo. Great comments yourself, enjoyed reading everyones great comments last night.
Mandy, another great post this morning. Three more poor results and it could reach critical mass?
Completely off topic:
Last night I asked Google some LOTR question ( it couldnt answer it) but saw there were loads of other q+a’s, so I had a run down.
I was shocked to see that someone had asked “are Orcs real?” Of course I cracked up laughing thinking , yes, they support Stoke.
Alright you had to be there, but it seemed funny at the time. Not sure the education system is doing well if people are asking if Orcs are real?
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Reading some of Leno’s comments is concerning.
He said the passing from the back tactic was to “beat Watford’s press”. The Orns scored 2 goals in 4 league matches before they played us and were thumbed 3-0 and 3-1 by Brighton and West Ham respectively at Vicarage before our visit.
Flabbergasting!
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Morning Mills. That crack me fkn up. “Are Orcs real?” lol. This is exactly what we deal with on Arsenal twatter.
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Aren’t we already a hire and fire club, Mandy? We sacked Lehmann after 1 year as coach. We fired Darren Burgess after 2 (?) seasons of reportedly a great job. We sacked Sven Mislintat, the guy handpicked to be our GM within 12 months. We have tried to get rid of players under contract, and ended up selling and bringing in more than a dozen players each in a short time. And we moved away from a manager to a DoF setup to make it easier to change tack.
Besides, sacking Bruce Rioch didn’t mean we became a managerial merry go round.
There’s a lot to be said for stability. This iteration of Arsenal has no leg to stand on when it comes to this issue though.
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Labo-LOL! I dont know how you guys deal with twatter!
As you say, flabbergasting re Lenos comments. Its like we are caught up in a bubble with no real understanding of the world, and what we are capable of and instead feel scared of everyone?
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Mandy @ 8:35am
“it is still possible he is….trying…to implement some sort of policy from the top”.
If we look at the type of recent signings the club made, Pépé, Tierney, Ceballos, Martinelli against his wishes of wanting Benega and Nzonzi… I think we can easily predict the type of policy “the regime” has in mind: progressive and attacking football. So fully agree with you, he ain’t doing himself any favors.
Mills; the Orns was there for taking man. I see so many saying the team lacked game-management. How can they if they if the game get micro-managed from the sidelines. There’s a video of Leno wanting to pass it short again toward the end of the game, we know from Emery’s own words that he told them to stick to it, but Xhaka angrily signalled Leno to boot it up field.
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LG-Sure were.A quick third would have killed them off. One think about Vicarage Rd is they can get the 12th man working, (and those fans are slow to get going but get pretty noisy)and the whole games ends up like some scrappy 3rd rd FAC game. Always working in their favour.
Im not into the micro-managing, its too confusing as a player. The games too fluid and the commands end up being in hindsight. imo, Henry would have been a disaster under Emery…
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4 areas of improvement that will guarantee trophies – This is a headline from the chief of clown sites related to Arsenal.
The owners of that site are deluded idiots and a reason for the toxicity amongst our own fans and one of the reasons why we are perceived as some of the worst fans. These guys were moaning when we were in the champions lg and playing great football.
Cant stand them and their AFTV crew!!! add Arsenal Truth to the list. The day we broke our 8/9 year trophy drought the guy didnt celebrate but have a moan!! idiots the lot of them.
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certainly seems that way Labo. Know he has worked with technical players in his early days in Spain- eg Valencia, but not sure with what success. Could be wrong, but always had Sevilla down as a team with hard working aggressive willing runners.
But as you say, that lot are technical attacking players, looks like Emery will have to adjust to such fine players, or pay the price.
Maybe Shard, JK has been quite effusive in his praise of UE, mainly citing his energy, being part of a project etc, but ultimately, I am sure that will count for nothing if he isnt going to deliver CL football. But outside looking in I would be absolutely amazed if alarms bells arent sounding loudly upstairs where an Invincible now sits, that Watford game was clueless, like it was when we blew an easy run in to the top 3/4 messing up Palace and Brighton at home, and then, the EL final. Only so much most managers can get away with unless it is with the express wish of the club…and even then, there is the scapegoat thing
Be ready, Freddie- Le Temps Viendra
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Mandy there was recent screenshot of his Valencia team that had Mata and David Silva surrendering a 4-1 lead against a 9 men Real Madrid.
For Emery’s style of play I think you need a different type of player, like the type Dyche got, not these technical types we have.
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Ah! My mistake. He didn’t surrendered a 4-1 lead, but actually failed to take advantage playing against a team that got 2 players sent off.
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