Good Afternoon fellow Positives,
Sadly, for you, words do not fail me after that excruciatingly disappointing result from the SJP. Be assured though – you do not suffer alone. We have not won a point since the turn of the year on the road in the PL. Trust me every dropped point is a nail in my hand. I would however admit, looking back over those painful mostly Sunday afternoons, that we have not actually deserved to earn a point with some poor efforts.
I have not seen the stats for today’s game but I assume we had 75%-80% of the possession. And yet we lost, again, as we did in games in which almost exactly the same possession format developed, at Bournemouth, at Swansea, Watford, we play well, get in front. We have better players than them, technically, probably fitter and more intelligent. We are confident, in control and then, and then, AND THEN – we fall apart and lose.
I have read on here, and I have some sympathy, that these calamities are the defence’s fault, that they should defend better. Looking at the first Toon goal today, though not the second, I have sympathy there. It seems Rafa paid more attention to Shane long’s goal last week than Mustafi did. There is a lack of concentration at the back, I accept that. The notion however that we must win games, in fact the only way to win games, is by keeping a clean sheet, i.e. relying on a defence that we know is gash, seems wrong headed.
What distressed me more though is the lack of quality that we showed at the other end, in our attacking and allegedly creative play. We had oodles of possession throughout, yet barely tested the Toon goal-minder Dubravka. In the final 25 minutes with Toon ahead I don’t think he had to make a serious save. What is the point of having “stellar creatives” (*Copyright Mandy) if we never get a shot or header on target ?
What to do ? Away from the Ems we are not a team at the moment.
We had no “Number 10” today, or if we did I did not see him. We have Ozil, Rambo and Jack at the club, yet young Joe Willock had the job given to him, and he had no chance. He was eaten alive in midfield, in my opinion. Our creative output and goal threat, when it was badly needed, was negligible today. And if we cannot score goals then on the road we are f*****.
Having got that rant out of the way well done to Mo Elneny today, another AFC Man of the Match performance for the Egyptian. 95 hard minutes in Moscow and he still looked like a Spring lamb today.
Enjoy your Sunday.
Positively Arsenal 
Eduardo, lots of clubs, and media work for one of the most intelligent articulate and internationally respected men in the game.
I personally think the France job could well eventually be his destiny, maybe even a World Cup winner, who knows.
As for the clinging on theory, the alternative ,at least considered by some is that he seriously thought of leaving last summer, and had to be talked into staying as the club were not geared up for his departure. But who knows, one for his book, maybe
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Andy
Italy are currently listed in 20th position.
Uruguay in 17th.
Just ahead of the aforementioned Netherlands who as you also listed above also lost a game football against our two nemesis. Iceland at 22 and Costa Rica at 25.
I do recall Costa Rica’s record. That’s why I didn’t dismiss them, same as Iceland.
Nick the mechanic who I gave voluntary consultations to in helping him and his fellow business owners in their successful dealings with Harringay Council and THFC as a British Italian didn’t quibble when I said that the current Italian squad is far off the talented pool of attacking players of the nineties or even a few years later when they won the World Cup.
He’s expecting and hoping as fans do a pick up as the current Italian team finally transitions into a new cycle but like all passionate football fans from a big football country if the team he followed put in piss poor showings two tournaments running he would, like the rest of us, be able to acknowledge that sequence.
Which is how we can have a thread comparing Mustfai’s error count leading to goals in his second season with Koscielny. Consistent poor performances on the pitch are: consistently poor performances for whoever is concerned (yes you can include a few on the pgMOB roster there if you like).
For myself I never expected Mustafi and a one legged Koscielny match a peak Mertesacker and Koscielny and I did not imagine that this season’s squad was stronger then last season’s. I did not expect better football this season in August compared to last year. Possibly because I was still celebrating a big cup final victory over a petro club championship winning squad.
A weaker squad is always a weaker squad. Whatever the reason. For the Arsenal. Or for England.
It’s just sport. Same way people don’t follow through in the martial arts gym as that usually leads to a brawl. Because that’s not sport, that’s fighting.
Who could imagine why an official would choose to allow one team to do so and not another in a professional game of football.
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If he does leave this summer, will be sad on a few levels. Not least of which, this club could be on the brink of good improvement.
Things really looking up at younger and academy levels. State of the art training and fitness facilities. Some brilliant first teamers, a top scout and world class fitness experts.
In addition, at the risk of labouring a point I believe the team have suffered massively with the loss of Cazorla. Without him, we give the ball away in dangerous areas way too much, in a way the law of averages says we will get caught out defensively, even by lesser players in lesser teams than,our own. A different player, but I am convinced Mikhi , along with Ozil can finally alleviate the Cazorla conundrum, along with increasingly able deputies of course. Not only can these players keep the ball, they keep opposing players extremely occupied And a lightening striker as well as a man who will show himself the lethal finisher.
Maybe Wenger should have done something before now on our issues, but his methods take time and patience.Don’t believe this summer is the time, but of course other, slightly more influential people in the club may or may not agree to differ.
But if for some reason Wenger departs this summer, we can all ask, just what has Arsene Wenger ever done for Arsenal….apart from…..
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My friend Nick like the Uruguay fans at the least had a victory in a game of football to celebrate at the last WC.
You’ve all seen the difference after our team win or lose a game football. We know how this works!
Here is the 2014 group table. It reflects poorly on one team and one team alone. It is the record, dare I say it: data
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_D
England: zero wins. One point.
Iceland have as tough a group as Costa Rica this year. Be fun to see how they get on.
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But England beat Wales the Semi Finalists and at the least got a victory at Euro 2016. Slight improvement. But still not out of the group.
Think they’d have traded places with Wales in a heartbeat but they’d have needed at least two players performing consistently (it is a key word) at the technical level of Aaron Ramsey and Gareth Bale to do so.
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for me the alleged decision by Gabriell to leave the club last summer is if far greater interest then the chat that fills the funny pages (Blagges and Hacks)
He could and did lead the defence in the absence of the senior two. In spite of ongoing language/communication concerns…just a shame it didn’t work out.
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QPR have handed a trial to Arsenal youngster Chiori Johnson. The 20-year-old, who can play at right-back or as a central defender, has recently been on trial with Blackburn Rovers after being made available for a summer move. QPR had another Arsenal lad on trial recently, winger, AaronEyoma
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fins as you mention Gabriell had language problems, and I’m told that was a major reason why he was sold, he had made almost no headway in learning the language
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As seen with Conte’s squad you take the experienced and reliable performers from a squad it is weaker.
There
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Sorry.
That was the root of my concern at losing Chamberlain though granted Eds his luck with getting long runs together resulted in some greater inconsistency, and even though
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Sorry.
That was the root of my concern at losing Chamberlain though granted Eds his luck with getting long runs together resultedn in some greater inconsistency. Though players like Nelson and Iwobi look good prospects at least for this season it felt like a drop in my humble opinion.
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Barcelona drew 2-2 with Celta vigo this evening, it was the first time in 16 years that their starting 11 did not have a player from their academy or a Catalan player.
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had to laugh at an Article on an AFC site about Sven Mislintat being at the Schalke v Dortmund game at the weekend, it was one of those “the six players Sven was scouting” type of things, and believe it or not they included Schalke’s 6ft 6in Brazilian central defender Naldo, sounds good so far, except the guy will be 36 in September. These blogs have no shame.
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if we’re talking speculation then:
If Koscielny is likely to struggle even more next year not forgetting the World Cup one option alongside a new CB could be for Monreal to move across adding to the CB pool and to bring in another LB someone like Bertrand *coughs* from Southampton. hehe.
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fins I think our budget will be such that we have to prioritize which positions we sign players for, which starting spots.
of course sales may impact the choices as well as the budget. But we could be losing Per, Jack, and Santi all for nothing. On the same token we might bring in Meyer and Ozyakup for free too.
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Media tonight linking Arsenal, along with Man City, spurs, chelsea, brighton and southampton with Norwich midfielder James Maddison, but here is the rub, £25M, when they hell did second division players get to be worth £25M
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Thought Gab was a decent defender.
Don’t get me started on the players that have left this season, I realise budgets, no champions league, expensive strikers, wage bills, the fact we might be a club that actually adheres to FFP, Wenger wanting his players thriving and a whole host of unknowns may come into play, but there have been games where we really could have done with an OG, Coq, the aforementioned Gabriel, a fit and firing Theo, and,,the one that really hurts, Szcesney
Going to put this down as a season in transition that will hopefully be part of a plan to lead to better things, but we lost some very decent players along the way
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yes mandy, the turn over in players has been massive in the last year
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Ed, Choiri is fast and I always thought his best position was on the wing. Obviously there was to much compition for places at ARSENAL in that position but once he moves I think he will be at his best further forward.
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I think the prevailing theory behind Arsenal removing Wenger is that Josh Kroenke is going to start calling the shots. Based on his history with the Denver Nuggets where he fired legendary coach George Karl, despite a very good record, to move forward, they think the same is inevitable for Wenger.
I think it’s possible, because if indeed Josh is going to be taking the reins, he will want to send a message.
However, Arsenal isn’t the Nuggets and our brand is truly global. I think a large part of our brand is the culture as a family club. Sacking the grand old man wouldn’t exactly fit with that messaging. Especially in Asia. Unless Wenger decides to walk away, I am almost certain that Arsenal will have him see out his contract. (To avoid instability, I think they will either announce he’s leaving, or sign an extension by mid-season)
The rebuild is only half complete. All those players that left, I think ultimately it was the right decision for the medium to long term. We got rid of what were squad players and strengthened our first team. All while staying virtually where we were in terms of transfer and wage spends.
Now, we should have the ability to spend the budget from last season as well as this. And we’ve added some new sponsors (plus the sleeve sponsorship) to allow us to pay more wages without violating the domestic FFP rules. We’ll also be losing some big(gish) wages from Per and Santi. And possibly Wilshere. And hopefully we’ll have another 40m or so from being in the CL if we can win the EL.
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I agree with Shard, “The rebuild is only half complete. All those players that left, I think ultimately it was the right decision for the medium to long term.”.
AW remaining as manager is crucial to attracting the talent we need to complete the team’s transition. DM, CB, GK, RB (& RW) are the key positions we need filled by 3-5 new faces.
Quality multi-position options exist for DM/CM/RB (Fabinho), CB/RB (de Ligt) or DM/CB (Ndidi, Upamecano) but we will have to splash the cash to beat the moneybag teams to their signatures.
If it is to be his final year I trust AW will do all within his power to make it a success.
We wait and we wonder.
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My thoughts on needing a RW more than a LW,
I feel we are overloaded on the LW with 3 right-footers (Auba, Welbz & Iwobi) and 2 LBs (Monreal, Kolasinac) who operate comfortably there. It is the RW that demands greater attention. Bellerin always needs help, Mkhi is really best in the middle and everyone else (Ozil, Rambo, Iwobi, Welbz, Laca) only moonlight on the RW. A proper line-hugging RWer (preferably right-footed) to support Hector and supply purer crosses into the box is an absolute need for our attack. Need not be super-expensive. Why not the unstoppable (& hopefully coachable) Adama Traore for 10m? Just imagine that counter attack.
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Basic, back of the envelope calculations again.
If we lose Per, Santi, Wilshere. I think we free up something like 300k/wk in wages. That’s 15.6 million. We’re allowed to increase spending by 7m. Plus 10m from the sleeve sponsors..and let’s say 5 million from other sponsors. That’s let’s say 37 million in wage space. Which equals to about 700k per week.
Plus I would think a transfer budget of between 100- 120m. (Maybe more if CL football)
Transfers in order of priority. DM, CB, GK, CM, FB, W
A quality DM and CB would probably take close to 100 m between them. And probably at least 300-350 k in wages.
Which leaves 20m and 350k in wages. A GK will be bought as a replacement. So probably whatever we get for Ospina (5m?) and his wages (60k?) off the books will help. GK 10m, 100k. Net 5m, 40k.
Budget left. 15m, 300k (est)
CM on free (Meyer/Ozyakup) at 150k/wk
Budget left 15m, 150k
Plus of course, new contracts. I think Ramsey easily commands a 200k+ per week contract. If he’s on something like 100k right now, that’s basically the entire wage budget gone.
Now I think we get to the youth. Who is ready to step up in what position? Anyone who can be backup to Bellerin? Is Reiss Nelson, or the forgotten Jeff ready for more first team football as a winger? What of the Left Backs? Monreal is getting on in age. And can maybe transition towards being a CB. There might be some flexibility with youth sales and new contracts. People like Akpom can probably be sold for a few million. While Reiss Nelson and co might warrant new improved contracts.
And that 15m left may not be there in the first place (If the budget is closer to 100m instead of 120)
I think that’s why buying a winger, or a backup FB (or even another older, cheaper CB) will be more luxury buys which depend on us having CL football. Or selling someone for a high value.
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A brilliant piece by Tony Attwood:
http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/68269
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It is Gorgie
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Shard, consider..
IN (-85m)
Fabinho (DM/CM/RB) – 40m
Leno (GK) – 20m
de Ligt (CB) – 23m / De Vrij (CB) – free
Adama (RW/LW) – 12m
OUT (+19m)
Ospina – 8m
Lucas – 10m
Akpom – 1m
Per, Santi, Jack, Campbell, Jenkinson, Asano, Zelalem – released
Macey, Nketiah, Willock, Bielik, Bramall – signed & loaned out
SQUAD
Leno – Cech – Martinez
Bellerin – M.Niles
Monreal – Kolasinac
Mustafi – Chambers – Mavropanos
Kos – de Ligt/De Vrij – Holding
Fabinho – Elneny
Xhaka – Ramsey – R.Adelaide
Ozil – Mkhitaryan
Adama – Nelson
Aubameyang – Iwobi
Lacazette – Welbeck
Don’t think we need another CM even without Santi and/or Jack. We have enough.
Reducing the midfield numbers/touches and increasing individual responsibility speeds up offensive transition.
I’m not stuck on the names I listed as possible INCOMING except Fabinho who I rate very highly.
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it is extremely unlikely this manager will leave the club with the squad in mid-tranistion, and in complete transistion at the back.
Which is why i am happy to speculate that all the shrieking surrounding the manager is nothing more then a flatulant echo of the negativity that has impacted the team and squad as witnessed consistently over the last for years, especially in 2014 and last season as the manager had some negotiations on his contract. After spending such energy haggling over who knows what, the manager hinted at some stuff.
Leaving his signing till late last season means that is highly unlikely the manager will move at the end of this season.
Wishful thinking? Or desperation? The end of an era dreamers have turned their own saga into the an era that will end in ignomy if it hasn’t already.
And the chaps at Red & White holdings will just have to continue twidlling their sums and thumbs. Whilst copiously overspending on players at the club that they did manage to buy (not the Arsenal then).
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IN (other):
GK: Trapp (PSG), Dubravka (Newcastle),
DM: Ndidi (Leicester), Can (Liverpool), Romeu (Southampton), Ndombele (Lyon)
CB: Upamecano (RB Leipzig),
RB: Meunier (PSG), Cedric (Southampton)
RW/LW: Richarlison (Watford), Bailey (Leverkusen), Guedes (PSG), Redmond (Southampton)
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Very good piece, Georgaki
Clear, simple demonstration that anyone saying this is the worst things have been over a very long timespan, 30, 40, 50 years or even more, surely isn’t dealing in objective facts, principally league position, cup success,etc.
Which, when you think about it, is extremely ironic, as the biggest critics are obsessed, now, with results.
The article does not, for me, blast to pieces all arguments in favour of change, but it shows that at the very least anyone making these claims of these being the worst of times has, or should have, a duty to explain why they believe that is the case.
They should take it on, head on, why sixth is worse, in their opinion, than 12th, 14th, 17th, whatever. Maybe they could come up with something interesting and novel. maybe they would have to confront their own life as to why 6th is worse, or rather feels worse.
Maybe, if they were honest, after all that they would have to admit, say, memory is a strange, unreliable beast.
Almost certainly, unless they can construct a plausible theory as to why trophies and 4th, 5th, 6th is worse than long barren spells, lower finishes etc, they should have to admit, ok, it was emotion speaking, clearly these aren’t objectively the worst of times.
That’d be something.
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Aman. I would be absolutely astonished if we could buy Fabinho..especially for 40m. Chuffed..but astonished.
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Shard…I’d pay 50 for him. He’s still just 24
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Shard..for de Ligt@ 19 I’d go as high as 30m. He’s so confident & comfortable on the ball.This team just needs players like that.
Adama’s pace would jumpstart everyone. It’d be panic stations every time we counter attack. Back that all up with a great DM and even Mertesacker can stay another year!
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Rich
They will not do any of what you suggest because it means developing an evidence base. That requires thought.
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Georgaki
Agreed
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With all this transfer talk, folks, which I’ve been known to indulge in a lot myself, how about mentioning a few bad personal calls from past.
I’ll start us off with Benteke, Schneiderlin and, forgive me it was momentary… Jedinak!
I find memory slightly unreliable as to the better calls, but I’m pretty sure, over 90%, I was keen on Nzonzi, as a punt, really, when Blackburn went down. Also liked Maguire from early Hull days and even caught eye before that. Aldeweireld looked good in Ajax days when their young side beat Utd well.
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Rich that’s an interesting question. Hmm. I don’t usually call for specific players to be signed. So not sure who my bad calls were. I’m sure there must be some. Maybe I could say more about players we did sign who I thought would be better than they turned out to be. Bendtner and Gervinho. I thought both had it to be great players. I still think they did, except between the ears.
As for good calls. I bought Robert Pires and Lauren for Arsenal on my video game just before Arsenal did. I think I can safely say that makes me a genius. Though some would say I am trading on past glories.
Last season I wanted us to sign Wissam Ben Yedder. We bought Lucas instead. Who I also like and think he was unlucky with the timing of his injuries. I think Ben Yedder would have been better though. Arsene and Sven..You know where to find me!
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Aman
Anicoll and I were raving about Adama Traore some months ago. I agree he would be an exciting player. I’m sure he would also be intensely frustrating (as you point out, hopefully he’s coachable)
I think it unlikely we sign him. Doesn’t seem like a Wenger type signing at all. When was the last time we signed someone from the English league to be a first XI player? Arteta? Also, would Stoke sell to us if they had similar offers from elsewhere?
One player from yesteryear I really wanted us to sign was Morten Gamst Pedersen from Blackburn. But we never did. Probably also because English teams sell high.
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Shard,
AW’s in his “final” year next season. Nothing is off the table bar 100m+ players.
I’d say there’s more quality in the English Championship now than ever before.
Since I’m still on it, another player I wouldn’t mind having in red & white is Swansea’s Alfie Mawson. 24. Solid CB.
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I was ranting about Traore Shard – still ranting – just 22 and he is still developing at Boro not Stoke. ( same bugger you are thinking of in charge though !) If Boro managed to get promotion I am sure Pulis would be keen to hang on to him. He’d be mad not to.
Bear in mind before we spend all the £££ cash the World Cup is sure to throw up a few players we have never heard of from countries in which the coverage from the UK media is negligible.
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Rich
George would add my fantasy signing Alexis Sanchez to that list!
I’d have to disagree in spite of his peak and toy antics in his last eighteen months.
In my defence he was only my back up fantasy signing after the smelly rise of the Don Revie’s favourite football team the Petro-Emirate or Petro Corpora-state* of Abu Dhabi City and the solvent aided evaporation of any dreams of Aguero playing for the Arsenal. (*Some joker called Mussolini had a more efficient definition in such cases…)
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Aah yes. Pulis had me confused. Boro indeed. Either way, I doubt we get him, mainly because I doubt we’re all that interested.
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andy
I don’t think signing a one tournament wonder would be something we’d be looking at. In the days when we had a top and settled squad and an offbeat, not so expensive signing might prove to be great, sure.
If at all, I think the scouting team and Wenger would just be looking at how the players they already have an eye on are going to fare in the high pressure environment, and maybe with different systems than at their clubs.
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fins
I really wanted Alexis in 2010 before he went to Barca. When we were rumoured to be in for him before 2014, I wondered if we needed him when we had Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Well he came in and was a level above the Ox was at (especially because the latter kept getting injured) and I was happy.
In hindsight though, he was all in all, a signing that turned out more negative than positive. And it had nothing to do with his abilities. Still, I wonder if we would have found a goalscorer if we hadn’t signed him. Maybe we’d have been worse off sooner. Who knows?
Good decision to sign him. Good decision to sell him (though late by 6 months)
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Fins
Doof, you got me there. I’ve forgotten for quite a while how impressed I was with Sanchez one particular day when he tore England apart at Wembley.
Was definitely in dream signing territory for me. Same with Ozil since that u21 victory or before if it was year Bremen did great in Europe.
They weren’t just players I would have loved us to sign but ones I was convinced at time the likes of us, because of money, couldn’t get.
Theory of mine is that when coveting a player, when you’ve decided they are excellent, you tend to see strengths in very pronounced way, and largely ignore any weaknesses.
When your own player, if you’re not careful, it can flip totally. Mistakes, flaws or whatever hurt, and even good things might not bring any joy on a day the result is bad.
Plus you see them much much more when they join.
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Traore was player who hurt us most when youth team lost to Barca in a good quarter final of Uefa Youth League.
Don’t know year but we had Akpom, Zelalem, Toral, Bellerin, Kris Olsson, Maitland-Niles and Gnabry in team. Only remember Traore and their star striker munir for them.
(Fatefully perhaps Gnabry played and scored, was subbed half time or after, hopped on plane soon after, then made late sub appearance for seniors at Bayern the next day, picking up the massive knee injury that blighted him for next couple of years.)
Doubt we’ll do that again for many a year.
Physically, Traore looked ridiculous at that level, and had plenty of technique to go with it. One of those where he could beat his marker pretty much at will.
The way the subsequent years went I guessed he was a youth superstar who couldn’t quite make transition, though that did include a couple of appearances against us with a couple of spectacular moments. Often thought with the way we play some attackers and widemen get a chance to shine denied them in nearly all games simply because we don’t sit deep and most do now.
Heard he’s been unplayable at times in championship.
Think that’s the key when trying to assess any wide players for us- forget how they look on thrilling runs in space, or at least put that a distant second: how will they fare against the bus?!!
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The Barca final only seems like yesterday but I suppose it must of been about three or four seasons ago. If I remember rightly ref robbed us again.
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Matthew Smith scored a penalty winner after Daniel Barden had saved from the spot as our under-18s secured a crucial three points at Southampton.
Our youngsters are now five points clear of the third-placed Saints, and 12 points adrift of leaders Chelsea with two games in hand going into the final three games of the season.
Kwame Ampadu made 11 changes to the side that booked a place in the FA Youth Cup final on Monday, but Smith and Trae Coyle – who came off the bench during our semi-final win over Blackpool – both started on the south coast.
Schoolboys Matthew Dennis, Miguel Azeez, Ben Cottrell and Armstrong Okoflex also started for our youthful side at Staplewood, and faced a tough test against an experienced Southampton side which included recent Premier League debutant Michael Obafemi.
The hosts started the stronger side, too, and had an early opportunity to open the scoring from the penalty spot in the first half. Fortunately, Barden was able to react well to make a smart stop from Jonathan Afolabi.
We improved after half-time and claimed our reward from the spot. Coyle was brought down by goalkeeper Adam Parkes, and Smith stepped up to send the Saints stopper the wrong way.
Barden had to make a number of fine saves throughout to preserve our clean sheet, while substitute Stan Flaherty missed the chance to double our advantage late on.
Ultimately, it would not matter. Our young backline stood firm to keep out wave after wave of Southampton attacks to all but secure second spot in the Under-18s Premier League South.
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Looks like I was wrong about when Gnabry got injury.
Youth league game was on 18th March 2014. Bayern game I thought he got injury was… 11 march 2014.
Worryingly, that means my memory of Gnabry going off early to play for seniors next day must be a false one! Oh well.
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Utd just spared a pen ref missed and linesman really should have seen.
VAR would have sorted it easily. Wonder how Utd voted?
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Burnley play Chelsea tomorrow and if they win they will go above AFC into 6th.
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