A hard-fought 3 points or what?
I saw people complaining that it was a poor performance. Really? Was it?
I don’t know what people were expecting, but the pitch was painfully slow and uneven. That’s not the sort of pitch that allows a quick passing game to be played.
Palace gave everything, running themselves to a standstill, almost.
I can’t understand why it’s a crime to credit the opposition for their effort and endeavour, rather than blaming our own players .
The deadlock was broken just after half-time when a bit of skill by Gnabry brought about a spot-kick. Of course, everyone blamed the defender and ignored the skill of the attacker.
Mikel lashed in the penalty and it looked like it would be a comfortable second half as we began to make more openings.
Not to be though. A hopeful punt up the field arrived at Chamakh’s feet. Mikel challenged for it and, as far as I could see, Marouane veered across Mikel’s path causing a tangle of legs. Never a red card in a month of Sundays.
So, down to ten men, the tactically inept Arséne Wenger made some changes. On came Jack for the substitute Gnarby.
Jack took up the position at which he played his full debut season. This was worrying for me because he had a dreadful night on Tuesday and could not find a teammate with the simplest of passes.
Naturally, Jack proved me an idiot as he was superb .
Its was a great defensive performance by everyone concerned. Not least by our young goalkeeper, who pulled off two magnificent saves within seconds of each other. He is going from strength to strength.
We wrapped it up close to full time with a beautiful link up between Aaron and our other goal and assist machine; Giroud.
Some other points of note were; Santi was average, Sagna was magnificent and Monreal is the unluckiest player in the league that he does not get starts.
Positively Arsenal 
AVB giving out about the spud fans.
Oh, the humanity.
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LeoS
You have found me guilty of a bit of exaggeration. 🙂
2012-13 – 8 yellows in total,
2011-12 was 5,
More than one dozen, but no reds.
I surprised that was his first straight red yesterday. But It’s not like he is a thug either.
Foy could have been worse. Arsenal should be used to the crap refs week in week out.
It’s fun now to see so many other teams complain about the standard in this league.
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So Alan Hansen has gone in print at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/:
“Arsenal-are-top-of-the-Premier-League-but-they-will-not-win-title.”
Quite a challenge to Wenger and the boys. Seems this must be a crap team despite a steady march upwards for the past 20 plus games since Bayern.
OK Mr Hansen and others, this is a challenge I am sure the team and we the supporters relish. Bring it on!
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Thanks for that Shotta. What a complete and utter turdbucket Hansen is eh? Makes himself look even more of a daft prick with each paragraph.
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‘Natrually Jack proved me an idiot’….no other Arsenal blog would ever write that,a severe lack of self-importance there George. Bloody brilliant!
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Two points regarding the red card.
First off the contact was not initiated by MIKEL. it was chamack that angled for him instead of running after the ball. Even if it was the other way the card should not have been more than a yellow since there was no clear chance of a goal being scored. Yes MIKEL was the last man but there is no way MC could have scored from forty to fifty feet away and in a foot race MIKEL would surely have caught up with MC and taken the ball away. Therefore no red card should have been issued.
Just to echo other commentators for this post. DC & LEO and a few others.
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fine weather for sailing
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Just look on the bright side – remote possibility though it was Chamakh might have steamed towards the goal and unleashed an unstoppable strike, or more likely played in the other Palace player to score – and thereby caused us much grief
Mikel saved us that torment
I see Villas-Boas has told the WHL crowd what he thinks of them – a manager telling supporters off for their whining ??? Whatever next
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No comments of outrage in the meedjah over the insult to the highest paying Home support in the land from their manager this morning – That would be Tottenham then. Who would’ve guessed, apart from the idiots that choose to boo their own, Home support is important to the players. Incredible!
I count that as nine points for the tinies from ridiculously soft pens. I wish we got those. Ah well.
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You didn’t have to be a clairvoyant to know the pitch would be prepared to suit the home side: that is one of the reasons why home advantage counts for so much, and why they turn the sprinklers on at half time at The Emirates. Given that, you would have expected the players to be prepared to play a different type of game – a game not totally dependent on quick passing – and sure enough that is what happened the moment that Gnabry came on. Two direct runs into the box, two penalties (except one wasn’t given) and I think it a fair assumption to make that if the Red had been a Yellow he would have inspired us to a 4 or 5 goal win. What a player he is, and we can now see why AW was in no hurry to sign Zaha, and so ready to jetison Gervinho.
On that Red, it was a fair enough call without the benefit of a replay, and I’m glad that it was Mikel who took one for the team on Saturday, rather than the Flamster, who probably should have seen Red moments after coming on against the Spuds. If that had happened I guess our season (and his) would have panned out rather differently, so it is worth remembering that we also get the rub of the green at times, just as it is worth listening to what Hansen has to say: sometimes he talks sense and you can sometimes learn more from criticism than praise.
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Heh. That’d be around £25,000,000 for a penalty taker then. Cool.
Daniel Levy, he certainly knows how to spend some money. Is Adeybayor* still on his books….
* You can take a punt on a troubled player from a mid table (at the time) team from somewhere for a mid range price. No problem. happens all the time, unless you are an expert blogger…And then you could almost excuse Sheikh Ma Booty for being hoodwinked by Arsene Vulture, again. But, and here’s the thing, what kind of funting idiot blows another fortune on said player again, after they have blown it at the third club in succession. In Levy’s defence he did flog Bale to Madrid. Oops, that was to Arsenal’s benefit too.
Do the self appointed spokesman of Tottenham supporters trust headbut the seats in front of them all the time (which can make it hard to watch the football) whilst wailing and groaning over Adebayor’s wages? Surely no one is that stupid? Expect maybe Levy?
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foreverheady at 9:59 am
Count on a “supporter” to always justify a blindingly obvious piece of injustice. Stockholm syndrome it is called:
“You didn’t have to be a clairvoyant to know the pitch would be prepared to suit the home side” – Like that horse paddock at Wigan some years ago.
“it was a fair enough call without the benefit of a replay” – A clear scoring opportunity, heh.
George – I supposed we need this kind of contribution to remind us of what we are missing on other blogs.
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just as it is worth listening to what Hansen has to say: sometimes he talks sense and you can sometimes learn more from criticism than praise.
the only thing he said which made sense is keeping a player at the half way line when we take corners…..however i dont agree with him when he blames wenger for it….we have players old enough to know that..and wenger is not the type of manager to feel he has to explain such things…this things should be normal for defenders to do without being told. we also have a captain who can station/force one of is teammates to stay there. it is ridiculous to blame a manager for decissions made or not made by 27-30 year old men. once players are past that line it is up to them. noone else.
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“….just as it is worth listening to what Hansen has to say: sometimes he talks sense and you can sometimes learn more from criticism than praise.”
Indeed you can sometimes learn (more) from criticism, of course much depends on the nature of the criticism, who is offering it (and the manner in which it is offered), and if it is constructive or not.
However, I believe it is written in stone that no good can ever come from listening to Dame Alan Hansen. Amen, brothers. Amen.
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When did Alan Hansen ever talk sense? That man recycles his set, ignorant views year after year. You shouldnt be surprised though. Last year, he called a black player “coloured”.
Earlier, the joy in seeing Arsenal’s highlights for 4-5 minutes would be followed by raging at the stupidity spouted by their “criticism” of our performance. These days, I just watch the match and walk away as soon as the “pundits” come on at half time. I then come here and go to the official site to hear Arsene’s surprisingly objective comments.
That MOTD lot are like a Eton old boys club. Pricks who stroke each other.
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A fair point about listening to informed criticism, though as Harry says Hansen has not had an original thought or uttered an original idea since Jesus was on the tools.
Accordingly please find below a piece from the Times this morning from football editor Tony Evans, a Scouser admittedly, that is more interesting and fair.
“Are Arsenal the real thing? They are top of the league but the mood at the Emirates Stadium went from insurrection to resurrection a little too quickly in the summer. The signing of Mesut Özil, above, for £42.5 million and subsequent results have silenced the critics of Arsène Wenger. The optimists are talking about winning the title for the first time in a decade.
The next five matches will give a better insight into Arsenal’s standing. First up, tomorrow night, are Chelsea in the Capital One Cup. Despite his eight-year trophy drought, Wenger will stick to his principles and field a weakened team. Given the strength of the squad, it is the correct approach.
The direction of their Barclays Premier League season could be determined by the home game against Liverpool on Saturday, the away match against Manchester United eight days later and Southampton’s visit to the Emirates on November 23.
During this spell, Wenger takes his team to Germany for another tilt at Borussia Dortmund. Even allowing for David Moyes’s troubles at Old Trafford, it is an imposing run.
Özil has brought an extra touch of class to the side and his link play with Olivier Giroud is a joy to watch. In a season where there is an abundance of brilliant strikers in the division, Giroud has been arguably the most underappreciated. His movement is breathtaking and his awareness and intelligence give his team-mates options.
Perhaps his name on the team sheet will not cause opponents the fear that Luis Suárez or Robin van Persie’s would, but that is in his favour. Centre backs who switch off around him are likely to be punished.
The main concern for Wenger is that Giroud stays healthy. With Nicklas Bendtner one of the main options off the bench, the manager must live in fear every time his forward goes to ground.
The arrival of Özil masked the overall failure of Arsenal’s transfer policy during the summer. Wenger has been effusive in his praise of the defensive triangle of Wojciech Szczesny in goal and Per Mertesacker and Laurent Koscielny, the centre backs, but Arsenal trawled Europe for a goalkeeper and stopper during the summer.
Szczesny’s confidence is building but he is still developing.
Opponents feel their central defenders are susceptible to mobile and powerful forwards. Domestically, Arsenal will have few worries. There will not be many occasions when the centre backs will be pushed around the pitch. However, it is different in Europe. Robert Lewandowski has already proved a handful and his late winning goal last week for Dortmund could come back to haunt Arsenal by the end of the Champions League campaign. Napoli, who they play in the last round of group games, are a different proposition with Gonzalo Higuaín in the side.
Dortmund’s second goal illustrated another issue for Wenger. Kieran Gibbs is developing by the month and provides width and danger going forward. He is, however, liable to be caught upfield and is susceptible to the break. Bacary Sagna in the other full-back slot is a better defender but both offer an effective outlet for the centre backs and midfield.
There is plenty of talent in the centre of the park, but Mikel Arteta’s ability to read the game does not quite mask his lack of mobility. Rival coaches feel they can pass the ball around the Spaniard. Mathieu Flamini has been a revelation since his return. His scruffy scurrying might not thrill the purist, but his importance to the side was underlined by his absence against Dortmund.
Aaron Ramsey is growing in influence all the time, but Jack Wilshere seems a little lost. The arrival of Özil changed the landscape in the middle of the park and the England player is still adapting. The balance of the midfield is not quite right. Theo Walcott’s return will help.
The best of Wenger’s team carry a threat of pace. Without Walcott — and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain — his side look a little flat-footed.
Are they the finished article? Definitely not. Yet this is the sort of work in progress that any manager would be delighted to have. It looks two first-teamers and a couple of high-class back-ups away from a dominant side. Wenger is on the march again. It won’t be long before the Emirates gets its first trophy.
Clubs show little regard for fans in ticket scam
When is asking over the odds for a ticket not touting? When there’s an official partner involved.
Thomas Cook is the official partner of seven Barclays Premier League clubs and is able to offer
ticket-plus-hotel breaks for big matches. So far, so good, especially for the travel company.
Which? magazine has released a survey in which it compared the cost of hotel and tickets booked separately against the price of the package. In 12 selected matches, the mark-up for Thomas Cook averaged 150 per cent. Some were much higher. A DIY package for Liverpool v Newcastle next May costs £107. Thomas Cook it? £455.
Some clubs have established links with StubHub, a company that allows ticket-holders to resell unwanted seats. Tottenham Hotspur fans launched a petition against StubHub last month after tickets were listed — legally — at more than 1,000 per cent above face value. They have the law on their side, but this sort of thing does football no good.”
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I agree with most of that article ‘Coll. Was just saying something similar elsewhere, albeit in a more condensed, and let’s face it, illiterate manner.
It’s still a work in progress, a thrilling one for sure, and one I think will eventually reap fantastic rewards in the form of them there big shiny baubles (the only measure of success they tell me). Perhaps the league is too far a leap this season, it’s a lot to ask to suddenly make up that lost ground on our richer rivals in one season, and I think it may be ultimately prove to be.
It’s why I prefer to just enjoy the football, and forget about the title challenge talk malarky, for now (would love to be wrong though..).
Arse.
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Hansen and the Times (Anioll5) harping on the negatives is an age-old tool that preys on our fears and insecurities. The “boogie-man” lies somewhere in all our consciousness. How many of these guys emphasize our steady progress upwards since last March, 20 plus games with 2 losses, 12-straight away games without a loss, some of our best players to return from injury, a far more experienced and talented squad than in the past, etc?
A passing reference perhaps.
Objective performance will always trump fear-mongering and dooming. A setback or two should not derail our upward march. These same pundits are quick to say money-bags City are not out of the race after 3 losses. Why write us off?
Up the Arsenal!
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I am with the ‘we are a work in progress’ gang Shotta although I had to point out to Evans that he had not even mentioned Santi and Poldi which seems to overlook we are a bit deeper than he believes. I accept, and I think AW accepts, that another striker is needed to provide cover for Giroo
As Evans says though “it wont be long before the Emirates gets its first trophy” which is about as good as it gets a week before a AFC v LFC game !
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We will all feel a lot more comfortable with Theo and Poldolski back in the squad.
Theo is supposed to be back next week, but I doubt he will be rushed into the team against Liverpool.
Flamster- 2 weeks?, just a guess.
Poldi? Four more weeks
OX, December.
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We have played and won 1 out of the ten ‘big games’ so far this season.
Our record in these needs to improve, we can all accept that.
We have played 8 games out of the 28 against the league’s make weights, and dropped 5 points out of a maximum of 24.
If Arsenal do their normal roll over of the lower ranked teams (very consistent year on year) then it’s down to the 10 games at the top end that will decide where the baubles go.
Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City are in the mix right now.
Everton, Southampton and the tinytotts might compete for the UEFA cup spot.
Things might change by the end of November, but as Harry said – let’s just enjoy the football until St.Totteringham’s day.
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I confess I was a little bit annoyed by the desription from the hack above that St.Jack is ‘a little lost’. If a complete and utter numbnut like me can figure out that Wilshere needs a trauma free season under his belt before he can be considered to be ‘back to his best’ then I’m not impressed when those who are paid to write about the game come up with such piffle. Yes, most players play with niggles all the time, but it’s not the same thing. Lazy cliches, lack of insight into the athletic demands required at the top level….pfffffffffffffft! Poor.
I do agree with the enjoying each game as it comes bit. What happens at the end will happen. Occasionaly you get a signpost to help on the way.
e.g. “I wonder what the clubs summer policy will be? What their *gulp* ambition could be? I only think about the club 24/7 and rely on any number of people writing about the clubs finances to keep me up to date with what I believe should be happening. Well, they’ve offloaded everyone they wanted to, say twenty odd players, and the last actual evidence I have that I could use to help me see into the future came in January when they signed up a Spanish LB who if ambidextrous would be playing as Spain’s RB. As mentor/cover/competition for Gibbsy. Hmmmmm. Might need to scratch my arse and think about this for a while….”
Where’s the fun in football if you can’t enjoy watching a game of football?
: )
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A cover for Giroud is a must, he’s doing brilliantly, progressed with far greater speed that even I imagined possible. Unfortunately negotiations to bring in cover during the summer fell flat, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see AW in the market come January. Who doesn’t wince whenever he hits the ground?
Agreeing that we are still a “a work in progress” doesn’t necessarily mean conceding to “fear-mongering”. I pay little or no heed to whatever Dame Alan and his ilk say. I’m still (cautiously) optimistic as ever. I don’t doubt we have a squad talented enough to have a go at the title. Arsenal have the best midfield in the league imho, almost an embarrassment of riches when fully fit, we have more depth and steel, and there appears to be a real togetherness about them. Long way to go though, so I just think it’s better to put that title talk on hold for now. As usual our injury list is slowly mounting up already (sigh) but DC is right, in that we’ll surely all feel a lot more secure with Walcott, Ox and the Podmeister available again.
The more options Arsene has, the better.
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More bad news.
Gnabry has just been signed up to a long term contract.
What are they doing! Can’t they see that it’s a £40M striker and a £20M defender or bust? Jeeesh. Hopeless. Gnabry! FFS.
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I think Bendtner is good cover for Giroud.Risk free.
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Is a striker is a must if you like to think that Plodders could plod about to good effect in the centre given a run or so. Bendtner? Big game for him tomorrow! I wish him well. I wonder who’ll play LW? Very interesting selection.
I think Adrian Clarke mentioned on the ClockEnd podcast that he was no longer adament that a striker is required. Not saying it wouldn’t be nice, just that I’m not going to beat myself up whilst worrying about it. If there is a priorty signing then you imagine it’d be a forward. I’ve only seen Akpom a few times, and obviously he could do with being held back a little for his own sake, but as I might have mentioned once or twice he’s got a lot of promise and potential.
My obvious guess is that Mourinho will plop for our loan target Ba tomorrow.
Ba vs. Bendtner.
Should be hopefully fun (as in an Arsenal victory!)
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and btw wheres Sanogo ? I know he was injured a while ago but is he still out, if not surely he should get a run out tomorrow night
He is a big lad, it would be nice to see him giving Terry a hammering
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Ah ha- Sanogo – on his back injury AW said ten days ago ‘it could be mid November’ for a return
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On an almost entirely non Arsenal subject did anyone watch the Barca v Madrid game on Saturday evening
Apart from the occasional flash of quality from Messi, a shot from Benzema and Sanchez’s winning lob it was a dreadful game with neither side seemingly able to put together more than two passes
And Gareth Bale ? If ever there is a player who looks totally out of his depth then it was the Welshman on Saturday – It was a relief for everyone when he was taken off
I predict tears before bedtime in the monkey sanctuary
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I expect Mesut quite enjoyed it though
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Anicoll, yep saw it. Atletico seem to be the team in spain at present and were I a tipster I’d be saying, stick two bob on them to take the title.
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I think ZP’s description of our performance on Saturday as professional was good. Or “patient and efficient” as AW said. I still had the feeling that we had a couple more gears to go through. Passenal is right – we’re not going to be fabulous every game, so we just make sure we win it anyway. And then we as fans can really appreciate the champagne footie when it comes along.
Hansen baffles me – I could understand the rancour lasting almost 25 years if we’d cheated in 1989 (c.f. Rooney diving in the 50th game), but all that happened was that we beat them, fair and square.
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Looking forward to tomorrow, huge excitement at the thought of taking on Chelsea at the Emirates. I reckon we can take them.
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Where has the talk of Arsenal’s title challenge come from? Has anybody here been displaying that amount of confidence? Has Arsene been predicting a title win? Anybody??????
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We will all feel a lot more comfortable with Theo and Poldolski back in the squad.
amen.
poldi we were told had a simple hamstring pull and usually that takes a month maximum…official time back was ten weeks which end this week…however he aint scheduled back till end november…..so i guess it wasnt just a pull..perhaps tear ..or worse rapture……santi i noticed during international week had protectove boot and in training he had surgery scar…theo also has had operation…..
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Georgaki-pyrovolitis October 28, 2013 at 3:09 pm
lol…loudly no..but lets face it …i want wenger and our squad to urinate on them all big time…cant say im fussed about the champions league yet…but the title here i want us to ridicule them all. to do so we cant go neck to neck with bastards like chelsea manure or any other especially with the refs here so the child inside me want us to beat them all by 6-0 in ht and then coast…wrap title up in january and worry about other things…. we need to be breaking opponents spirit from minute one and it is doable….get on the pitch serious the first 15 minutes, score two minimum..we have the quality and the speed to do it and then just maintain them and coast.
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per has self confidence and it shows…so does cheznhey, so does sagna ..so does flamini, so does jack so does ramsey so does ramsey..they all have self confidence and it shows….arteta? with his childish eyes and expressionless face looks worried most of times….too worried….if he feels pressure taking a penalty against palace what will he feel like if he has to take one to get us through last 8 , last 4 in europe? make a mug out of me mikel, please….
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omoiotherapy…jinx on the jinx… 🙂
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Are we currently challenging for the title ? Yes – it comes with being two points clear at the top of the PL
Will we be challenging for the title in April ? I hope so, especially if we are still two points clear
That’s where it comes from
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ignore me fellas…ive just had my neck cut open by a malaysian doctor in the royal ent at kings corss….codeine diazepam is my diet…
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anicoll5 October 28, 2013 at 3:23 pm
and that the rest are so shit and have been getting away with 3 points when they least deserve it …manure chelski and tot results pissed me off in the manner they arrived…
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As long as he wasn’t Spurs Hunter
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Do not ruin a good, long-running story. Just watch the ‘Arsenal in crisis’ story turn into ‘Arsenal not yet the finished article story’ (this will follow exaggerations pitched as “is this Invincibles 2”, to set the scene). It’s as predictable as Xmas shopping.
And it’s boring.
I like opinions based on facts. Arsenal are title challengers, alongside one would think Chelsea, Spurs and City. Liverpool maybe but they have a lot of ground (historically) to make up. And United continue to look vulnerable for the moment. Anyone who doesn’t think so is an idiot. We had a series of not the most overly taxing EPL matches, on the whole, but also not simple; BUT we know we lack width/speed, Theo, Lukas and Ox.
It kind of balances out, and we are where we are, 11 goal difference to the good, top of that mini-league, and top of the EPL, for now. The two typically combine.
The rest is in the future.
I’m no good at predicting the future, so I’ll just see what happens. But I bet one thing, Arsenal will move up that gear for the coming big fish games. I mention this because of the most recent season’s “top four/five mini-leagues’, but I’m certain we’ve turned the corner of resilience, and the proof is the results; plus the rise and rise of Gibbs, Aaron, Chewie and Giroud; and the proven qualities of Tomas, Per, Santi, Mikel, Mesut, Sagna and Kos. We will prove the equal of opposition, or better. And may the best team win!
I would without hesitation reckon on common sense, if we are in running by the time our wide players return one by one, providing options, we will be in the running until the last of the season.
Fear not!
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Hunter, just to say it is notoriously difficult to predict recovery times from injury. AW normally wisely shuts up. Nor is the same injury (eg groin, Flamini) the same thing; groin strains range from usually minimum 2 weeks to 3 months and so on …
To me Jack has been slightly off top-form for the player he is and the exquisite runs and movement we have seen, but he now looks close again, and I half expect the break out match and plaudits quite soon. It’s as much confidence as anything. He looks beefier, heavier, and ironically that may slow him a bit until muscle efficiency, or whatever it might be called, catches up again. Young people, shockingly, tend to grow in spurts.
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I was once laughed at for saying young players keep developing physically until 23, at which point they become more efficient physically. But it’s true. Weight, speed, mass, balance, rhythm, movement, “toughness” … bla bla, I’m boring myself now. I am willing to believe Jack is just going through a little development spurt, gaining mass, and slightly more awkward (the wrong word for Jack I know, but it’s all relative). By the end of this season he will be setting the EPL alight; people will remember but won’t believe how good he really is.
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I almost laughed my head off when Mourinho “threatened” to field his u-21 side tomorrow, and then withdrew. At every level, what a supreme dickhead (a favourite expression of Mrs. ZimPaul).
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One thing that has changed in the way Jack plays is that two years ago and before his injury he allowed the ball to do much more work, no AFC player since Liam was as good at letting the ball run into and across his path without touching it. He did not need that first touch other players took. By not touching it and interrupting the flight of the ball he was that that split second faster in what he did next, moving or passing
He just does not do that anymore
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For a bloke who has a very decent football brain Jose is rapidly, or more rapidly I should say, becoming a media clown
Moaning like a pig about the two day gap between the CFCvCiteh game and the COC tie, but saying nothing about the extra day of recovery and preparation that Chelsea enjoyed compared to Citeh after their midweek Champions League ties.
It did not work in Spain Jose and they saw through your nonsense
We are not all as stupid as Roman
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At every level, what a supreme dickhead
the president of dickheads worldwide
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Anicoll5 at 5:12 pm
Nail, head = Mou, media clown.
But they indulge him in England, don’t they?
I was so willing for his bubble to burst on Sunday until Hart had his predictable moment of madness.
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