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Let’s All Be Friends. Or Not?

I find myself in a state of conflict.

I am ecstatically happy about results and the general development of the team and club, yet angry at the treatment they were receiving until very recently.

People who have spent years running down the board, manager and players, a situation that reached new heights during the summer, are guilty of obscene levels of revisionism.

The manager was said to be unable to “do” defence.  This team has conceded 3 goals from open play in the last 18 games. It had the second best defence in the league last year, whilst still playing attacking football.  It contains players of the calibre of Sagna ,Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs and Monreal.  Not bad picks for a guy that doesn’t know a defender from his elbow.  Are these experts on football holding up their collective hands and saying: “Oops, I was talking utter crap.sorry” ?

Where are the agitators who claimed we would never buy a world class player or ever spend over £20 million on one now? What about those who claimed that big names being linked were just a ploy by the money -grabbing board to sell season tickets?  Why are they not admitting to being malcontent idiots?

Here are some extract from a post by ZimPaul that puts some great questions:

One thing is the frustrated fan hurling cheap insults against any target, including Emmanuel, Aaron, Abou, Theo, Denilson, so many others, and always Wenger by default, to vent their infantile anger at not being at the “top table” of trophies for a rather short spell, without thought of incredible ambitions the club had already achieved, was in the process of achieving, and had set its sights on, and the calm, decent manner it was going about all this. Despicable and stupid.

Then what does one call the informed and erudite fan, who knowingly, willfully set out to manipulate malleable, weak minds with outright lies, selective lies, omission of facts, outrageous claims (often dressed up as modest, humble appeals for change and “end of an era”), manipulating and flinging about all manner of base emotions, with the objective to erode team and club morale, it’s achievements, and get Wenger out?

And then what does one call more influential individuals and journalists, pundits, ex-players, football establishment types, who conjured up and fabricated an entire anti-Wengerball culture, week in week out, appealing to Arsenal’s time-honoured (British) traditions and glories, and so set out and all but conspired to use their influence to destroy Arsenal’s achievements during a vulnerable period of building for the long term?

That’s at least three categories of idiots who should be scoffing humble pie like there is no tomorrow.  But are they ?

The relentless moaning and whinging by fans with an over-inflated sense of entitlement has morphed into “We were only asking legitimate questions.” 

Where they? Or were they chatting shit?

All last year some of us were suggesting that when the new arrivals settled in and the young players followed their natural progression, that we would see a very good team.

This was deemed delusional.  When we said Ramsey, Giroud, Chamberlian, Podolski, Gibbs and others would be much better, we were told that we were mad. Some of these players were classed “not of Arsenal standard” by expert fans and pundits alike.

Were they wrong? Are they sorry?

People claim their moaning was because they were frustrated.  Ignoring that it was them and their fellow halfwits that were speculating about nonsense and that was what was fueling their frustrations.

They claim they were right to question.  Well it’s the tone and content of the questions that separate a reasonable fan from a spoiled child.

What about those who insisted that Jack would be sold and we were content to be fourth and not challengers?

Are they contrite?

We bought Ozil and still have huge funds for future purchases. Of course the moaners will say we should have spent more and sooner. Because they would make a better fist of running the club? Right?

Anyone with even half a brain could have seen that 2014 was penciled in as the point where we moved through the gears. It was obvious. But despite the evidence some expert fans won’t accept this.

You can question the club and still be behind the team.  That’s true.  But you must accept that if the questions you are asking are ridiculous and being asked because you have little understanding of almost anything, then its a hindrance rather than a help.

If you are claiming that our injury crisis is a result of poor management and planning consider this.  A fit squad would see, by my calculations, ten full and first choice Internationals not in the starting eleven. So swivel.

Things are going rather well at present, but there will come a point when we suffer some reverses.  The wheels might not fall off, but one might come loose, or it might just be a flat tyre.  At this point all the good that has gone before us up until now, will be forgotten.  Blackburn and Bradford will be rolled out and past perceived failings will be regurgitated by those that are temporarily quiet (and asking for amnesty) and used to back up their wild and ridiculous claims of incompetence by some poor sod or other.  Be it Aaron, Arsene, Ivan or Stan.

These stupid know-it-all fans haven’t gone away, they are just lurking and waiting for their next chance to express their football know-how.

So don’t ask me to just enjoy the football.

Did they want to allow me to just enjoy the football?

Bollocks to them and any appeaser.

Now I will be accused of not being positive, and for creating more divides with this post. Well I am sorry, but these people make me sick.

Does that make me a flawed individual?

Probably.

266 comments on “Let’s All Be Friends. Or Not?

  1. Someone let in a turncoat coward.

    Hahahahaha. The Liverpool resurgence hit a snag today.

    Did anyone see how many times Gerrard gave the ball away?

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  2. PG
    another lie mate. Many of us knew you had nothing of the exits of the ladies.
    SHOTTA
    I agree. Quality over quantity. And regarding Rogers, don’t you find it a little strange. After all the first season the swans came up they were known for their open a fast football. Now that he is in charge of the pool he has changed his ways a bit.

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  3. Maybe the pressure to perform at Liverpool is making him more defensive? There was relatively less pressure at Swansea. Dont know about city, but of all the top 6 teams, Liverpool play fast, on the ground football (excepting us of course. We are our own level: The Arsenal Level)

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  4. Shotta, talk about tactical incompetence. Mou is playing a 4-2-3-1 with two holding midfielders. At home.

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  5. G69,He wont be here again.

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  6. Rogers this season is the tactical antithesis of Wenger. Win by not conceding, it’s reflected in the scores and some turgid games. Still, I expect Liverpool to be a stronger prospect this season; about the same level as Moyes team, similar managerial DNA.

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  7. Kam, I watched a documentary about Swansea the other day, and the passing football is a club ethos that preceded both Roberto Martinez and Brendan Rodgers.

    And to be fair to Rodgers, one can’t very well play passing football with Steven Gerrard occupying a space in midfield. Just ask Woy, Capello and Erickson.

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  8. I havent watched Liverpool this season. Looks like I am wrong.

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  9. No worries, Georgie, I was just messing about.

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  10. I’ve watched them plenty. They parked the bus against Manure and barely drew with Swansea. Their loss today wasn’t too surprising. They created fuck all and were flat all over the pitch.

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  11. In fact, if I may, from what little we’ve seen, I am expecting nature’s balance to be restored this season. ManU and Liverpool about equal, tough but brittle, talked up a lot coupled with a lot more “what went wrong” post match analysis, Chelsea whipping up a frenzy one week and curdling milk the next, a sour faced Mou saying we deserved to win, City (Pellegrini factor) playing some sizzling football but losing too many, Spurs plying attractive stuff and scoring goals of beauty, but too few. I shan’t mention Arsenal because we already know roughly what to expect, although some will be surprised by the spirit and toughness of the team.

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  12. I know this is conspiracy theory territory, but i think it is worth considering: As a blog owner, you can earn some pretty decent money once your site gets visitors above a certain number (usually high). If you can generate such traffic daily through daily posts, all the better. Hence it would literally pay to pander to what is popular/create an easy to exploit theme.

    Maintaining a blog is hard work, posting everyday is very much so. Ignoring the collective article posting sites like Arsenal vision, you have positive ones that post when they can like, us, PIMP, NLIR, etc. Then you have the daily moaners like LeShit, ACulturedShit, etc. (Of course there are exceptions and I am not very knowledgeable).

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  13. Firstly shotta is right quality is priority although for the first few weeks I tried to post every day even if I didn’t have much to say because the blog looked important and it has proved to be. The door policy is absolutely right, and I know we have many literal gladiators who could take care of the site but why should we have to. As I said earlier after hearing a bucket load of shit from many sources its nice to come home to positive like minded people

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  14. Is Park in the squad?

    Last row, fourth from left.

    Great to see the squad picture. Feeling so proud of this team.

    Good to see Bendtner.

    Is Podolski permanently high? Jokes aside, amazing for the team to have a player of his quality and attitude.

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  15. GAINS
    got it. So Rogers had nothing to do with their style of play.
    ZIMPAUL
    from your lips to gods ears. Restore natural order.
    SENSATIONAL
    here is another theory mate. The Uzbek pays better than any one. His pr machine is in full swing.

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  16. Gainsbourg69 September 21, 2013 at 5:51 pm
    Jaysus. Mourinho has the gall to compare himself with Mourinho who at least knew how to use the attacking talent at his disposal. We have the spectacle of Ramires and Mikel holding and two fullbacks who are not very good attackers. No wonder it is easy for Fulham to defend deep.
    The half was so bad I fell asleep.

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  17. haha GK. That is one explanation for the dramatic shifting of stance at that place.

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  18. More likely it was the J you rolled that sent you over Shotta

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  19. Gains – That 4-2-3-1 without truly attacking full backs means he is attacking with only 4 players. Without the likes of Ronaldo and Ozil he is in bails of trouble. Abramovich did not look a happy camper.

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  20. @ pedantic george September 21, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    “Passenal,I hadnt realised that type of behaviour had gone on.Yogi told me you and the other girls had stopped posting because you didn’t like my aggressive posting style.”

    I was long gone by then, but I can tell you I have never been offended or upset by your posting style. I left because I was disgusted/irritated/infuriated daily by what I read, including what was being posted by the owner, but the last straw was the reason Passenal gave.

    @ ZimPaul September 21, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    Yes, point taken, but we agree that religion serves and has always served a purpose beyond the actual worship, whatever that other purpose might be in different societies.

    @ pedantic george September 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    “I cant get my head around people who object to our door policy.If we wanted to have endless stupid debates about perceived failings we could pop onto any one of numerous other “debating” blogs.”
    I know. It’s not as if you actually own the entire internet. Imagine if you weren’t allowed to have a dress code or a music policy at a nightclub. And at least you are honest an upfront about what the policy is, as dc (I think?) said.

    @ Apropos September 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    “Think it’s a good chance they will retort to rugby facing us away, despite recent claims of being a football team. Its Mark Hughes after all, his balls will be screaming for some illegal treatments.”
    ha ha

    @ Sensational Arsenal
    I would imagine site traffic has a great deal to do with the tone of some blogs, that’s not a conspiracy theory at all.

    ***
    Liverpool lost, ha ha.

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  21. Correction: Mourinho has the gall to compare himself with *Benitez*

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  22. And come on, Fulham!

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  23. Chelsea 1-0 up. Jinxed it.

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  24. Funny, the dodgiest of goals is what gave them the lead.

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  25. Chel-2, Ful-0. Here comes a deluge of media drivel about Maureen’s comeback. Today’s result may well prove as papering over the cracks.

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  26. Shotta, what type of manager puts a player like Özil out on the wing in order to accommodate two holding midfielders?

    Here’s a quick recap of Chelsea v Fulham.

    Keeper mistake gifts Chelsea a goal against the run of play. Fulham go on the attack and Chelsea hit them while they’re stretched. A very lackluster Hazard dove all game long in search of a penalty.

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  27. How long before there is a player rebellion at Stamford bridge??
    How long before the fans join in?
    How long before the axe falls?
    Counting the hours…

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  28. Gains69 @ 7:51 pm
    As usual straight and to the point. No wonder there is no place for Juan Mata in this shower of shite. JM himself summed up his contempt for lovers of the game in his post game comments:
    “Today I go to bed & no-one is in front of us in the table. Tomorrow someone will be. Tomorrow I don’t look at the table”
    Its all about the results baby.

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  29. Do you think roman has a clue that this one trick pony is undoing what little good reforms rafa and avb tried to bring to this mercenary team??

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  30. “Do you think roman has a clue that this one trick pony is undoing what little good reforms rafa and avb tried to bring to this mercenary team??”

    ha ha goonerkam, we’ll have to wait & see. One more loss in the CL could see Roman warming up his solitary trick.
    Mourinho’s destabilized the entire team bar fat Frank the bookie.

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  31. Looked @ today’s training pix…good to see Arteta & Nicklas…(dig the 3 musketeers look).
    Was hoping to see Park @ least training with the group.
    He didn’t look too fit/happy @ the photo shoot…hope he gets some C1C+ time
    so he can find a taker in Jan

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  32. Long time no see Aman.

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  33. hello PG…yes, been putting in quite a shift in life’s day to day + my dodgy internet.

    read thru the posts….loved the cartharsis….proud to be part of this ensemble…..we’re only missing Dexter now. Any sign?

    can’t wait to lay it on Sparky’s Orcs tomorrow
    COYG!
    PA-RASERS!

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  34. No my old mate has gone to ground

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  35. shotta,
    seems there’s only room for one “JM” @ Chelski.
    Mourinho’s losing it…

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  36. PG, you should not let the ……. get you down!

    Comical Ali and the Zombies at le-grove, why waste any time on the drivel?

    Myles Palmer and £300 millions cash in the Bank!!!! Is there any grey matter between his ears?

    Sir Ian Botham was on the hustle for mugs, willing to bet that England would whitewash the Australians 5-Nil and even 10-Nil, for the Ashes. WE know one of the easy “marks”!

    Jonny is a supporter of The Arsenal, full stop. We know he is not the brightest tool in the tool-chest. Jonny can go over the top, if he disagrees with someone. Even so far as calling the target of his ire – insane!

    A case of the kettle calling the pot – black! Do not ban Jonny and follow in the footsteps of ACLF!

    YOU have Alabamagunner, who is worth a dozen “Jonnies”..

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  37. Jonny wont be posting here.he doesn’t want too.
    That is not my decision,but it would be if I had to make it.

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  38. hope gone to ground doesn’t mean he’s dead, PG?
    if not I bet he’ll pop in soon..”once a RASER, always….”

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  39. That would be just the ticket.

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  40. Hi NOTH
    Folks were asking after you on here not just a few days ago.

    Agree with you, Alabama is one classy lady.
    (so is Passeral)

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  41. Shotta

    What did you think of Stevie in the beckenbauer position for Liverpool?
    It think its hilarious, the lad has never had any defensive discipline in midfield, he left all the work to Alonso and Mascherano when they were there.
    It will take months for Brenda to figure outs the mistake, long may it continue.

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  42. *correction of sorts
    The modern version where the free midfielder plays IN FRONT of the defence, rather than a sweeper. Jaysus, I didn’t want to credit the position to Makaelele.

    The position is simple when you see a true expert at it: Arteta, and he is just a converted striker!

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  43. Re the Liverpool game:
    Credit should be given to Southampton, I only saw the last half hour live on TV and they looked good to win out the game. Let’s see how MOTD see it.
    *That Guy who manages them is doing OK.

    *Poco-whatever.

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  44. Hmmmm.
    A former striker, eh?
    Maybe there IS a way back into the starting XI for Arteta after all, because Flamini ain’t handing back over his place, not while his ice cold Corsican heart is beating.

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  45. GEORGE
    DEXTER did stop by here about two months ago. One post if I recall correctly. It was something along the line of hello and how is it going. Do you have a search engine of some sort to look for his post?? I’m pretty sure I saw it.

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  46. DC
    many of the mid table clubs have improved. Southampton included. Their manager seems to be driven. The battle for mid table supremacy will be very tight this year. This season promises competition all over.

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  47. I have dug this one up earlier;0:
    From Harry, June 30th

    “It’s always refreshing to see someone have the humility to admit that they may have got it wrong.”
    So it is Harry,.so it is.

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  48. Unfortunately now he makes jokes and quick laughter with his buddies there at our expense. Sad really.

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  49. DC, Southampton were poor. They went for really long stretches of the game where they couldn’t even get out of their own half. Liverpool’s problem is they didn’t have any creativity in the middle of the park and couldn’t break them down. It was basically the Stevie G show, where he sprays beautifully lofted passes about, but causes no harm to the opposition.

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  50. woahaha…..george the tora tora reference is a payback compliment for the japanese survivor in the pacific…and as for jonny ,,how lol…well yeah when bacteria or viruses start eating the organism from within and spreading what else do you call it ? im not crazy im just aggressive towards the thickheaded chumps who thought they could have valid opinions …and who have been proven wrong yet insist on calling us deluded.

    harry im sorry if you cant get it maybe if i try an analogy (?) …imagine yourself being in the RAF with 15,000 hours air-time and me playing HAWX in ps3 for 5 months. You have 0 accidents, and you have over 75 successful missions and i come up to you and call you incompetent while i lecture you about altitude meter readings and how to manouvre and how to fly your aircraft. thats exactly what our fans have been doing with their “opinions”.

    this is sooooo early its ridiculous

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