I love watching a good game of football, and thats exactly what The Arsenal and Manchester City(the league champions by the way) served up to us yesterday.
Am I disappointed we didn’t win ? Yes, I always am.
Am I disappointed with our performance? Hell no, I thought we were fantastic.
I really don’t understand how people can suck the joy out of the game. It’s beyond pathetic the way fans ignore the good things and focus on the negatives. Why watch the game if you don’t appreciate the aesthetics of it. Just read the result in the morning paper if the result is all that matters.
Completely against the run of quite superb play we went a goal down. Flamini was at fault and they scored. But don’t all goals come from mistakes? Yes it was a poor goal to concede, but what went before was not instantly erased.
We then scored two wonderful goals and perhaps should have gone on to win. Sadly we let in another poor goal which if not for Wojciech Szezesny’s supreme athleticism in getting a hand to it, Flamini would have nodded clear. A bit of bad luck on top of a bit of bad defending and it was all square.
We then rode our luck for a short spell and in the end I was happy with the point.
Hey, we are unbeaten and looking better, much better, much much better.
Plenty to be optimistic about if you ask me.
Jack was quite simply outstanding.
Alexis is looking every inch the player we hoped he would be.
Danny looks a fit.
Some, like Ozil and Aaron, are not up to their usual ridiculously high standards but I’m sure it is just a matter of time.
I loved the way we played yesterday. How could I not?
Right. below is a bonus from @anicoll5 with his recollection of the fixture some 50 years ago
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My heart hoped for the home win, and on the balance of play it could have been. Citeh are however a wily serpent, slithering and striking around the defensive shield and it was not to be.
My head, to its credit, had settled for the draw. As I left the house in the morning, trotted after Steve towards the stadium and finally settled in my seat at 12.40 it was certain the points were to be shared.
How !?! You cry – such certainty of a draw, such a limit of ambition, so little of the Positivistas joie de vivre – it cannot be.
Well it was the cycle of history turning my friends. Fifty years ago was my first game at Highbury ( I know I have bored you with this theme before but stay with me a little longer).
The sun on that day shone in 64, it shone as bright yesterday. I sat on the North Bank, actually on the terracing but as I was by the fence at the back and the ground was half empty it was easy to see the action. It was a time of rosettes and rattles, and dark clothing, men wore dark clothing. I sat yesterday in the North Bank, wedged tightly between Arsenal fans other than when the goals went in and we popped up like a seed pod bursting. Some fans yesterday wore short trousers as they used to be known, clad in replica shirts mostly. In 1964 no adult owned shorts, let alone wore them out of doors irrespective of the weather. In 1964 I wore short trousers to the match (undoubtedly), so Ah – ha.
To be honest fifty years ago watching the tiny figures whizzing round miles away was pretty much beyond me and I suspect my mind wandered pretty soon. I persuade myself these days I know and understand a little more of what is going on, but I am prone to self delusion. Those replay screens have saved me from moments of embarrassment more than once.
And on that day many years ago you know what happened on the pitch ? The opposition scored first, the crowd groaned and tutted. Had I been more mature I expect I would have heard a few discontents muttering about Billy Wright. Our brave Arsenal lads battled back, then late on Joe Baker scored what in my mind’s eye I can still see as an excellent strike from outside the box in front of my North Bank perch to level the contest, and both sides went at it to the end. Some long forgotten referee blew his ceremonial silver whistle and the players exited for a plunge in the communal bath and for our visitors a fish and chip supper on their long, long journey back to East Lancs by stagecoach.
And “So What?” concerning all this misty eyed sentimental reminiscing you ask, what relevance might it have to yesterday’s events ?
Well just to say that I do not think that football has changed very much. Players were exceptionally talented athletes 50 years ago compared to the men and boys on the terraces, and they are exceptionally talented now, another breed. They are dedicated to their craft. If they were not they would be the same as us, and spectators in the theatre.
The geographical origin of players has changed, and it was pleasing to see an old Arsenal player called Johnny McLeod on the pitch at half time (who even pre dates me) talking about how he had persuaded his former Hibernian teammate Joe Baker to sign for the Gunners. From what I saw on the pitch yesterday the joy of playing, the excitement of scoring, and the frustration of letting in a goal has not changed for players or fans. Admittedly the notion of Joe Baker ripping off his shirt after his goal to reveal a perfectly rippling torso would be from another Universe compared to Alexis yesterday, but Joe had his moments, in a 1964 kind of way. Eye contact, manly handshake, firm but friendly pat on the shoulder, you know the form.
That I do not think the attraction of watching a real contest that had lured me to Highbury fifty years ago and has kept me returning year after year, though not always week after week, since has changed very much.
Every single game is a clean slate which will be won or lost by an unknowable amalgam of physical skill, game intelligence, perseverance, organisation and always of luck. Luck in some games consists of a few grains, in others it is delivered by the bucketload.
If football had changed, or the object of my affections had changed then my life may have been different. Nothing has changed, other than the colours perhaps. The flame burns bright. My appetite for the game, for the Arsenal and for the contest is as sharp as it was then. I suspect the hunger may carry on in the future as long as there are sunny days like yesterday, great players, great contests, though perhaps not for 50 years.
I thank you.
It was an excellent game yesterday, entertainment from a neutrals perspective but I wanted a win and at 2-1 thought we could hang on for 12 or so minutes. How much Debuchys injury affected concentration we’ll never know, but the defending for the corner was practically non-existent, very poor. But the quality of our game is starting to materialise.
Nice memories Anicoll……. you old git Gooner. 1964, were you wearing a string vest and braces? perhaps a flat cap?
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Cheers George & Andrew,first & foremost-a fantastic game,a game we could have lost but should have won in many ways,but 2all against the champions is alright with me,I purpously stayed of twitter after because I knew the reaction from the usual bed wetting,cry babies would be up to its usual standard,I always say-look at the table at Christmas to see if your in the title race then look at the table at Easter to see if you can win it,we’ve played four games and yet the gloomers are piping up again,amazing really! Well done on that anniversary by the way Andrew.
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@northbank1969 – I was just going to comment on the effect of Debuchy’s injury. Thought we were looking good for the win until that point but the injury really flattened the atmosphere, it felt like when Ramsey and Eduardo got injured and I think that got City back into the game. Who really knows, but I thought that was a turning point back in City’s favour.
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Splendid reminiscences Andrew though I have to say you don’t look that old in the flesh. One gets the sense from your article that football has changed very little whilst being reminded of the changes that are actually around us, if that makes any sense?
Agree with George – I just see a squad rapidly improving with every game played; to draw v the champions of England is never too shabby.
Good advice from Mel re keeping off Twitter where those attention seekers latch on to anything to give them some sort of ludicrous platform. They literally turn from player to player seeking out whatever negatives they imagine they can find but only ever confirm their own deluded status, highlighting their ignorance at the very moment they believe themselves to be so profound with their poorly thought out yet laughable ‘insights’.
Last week Jack. This week Ozil. Next week – take your pick, they are all up for grabs.
Pathetic.
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Thanks George & Andrew.
When even the players comment on the intensity of that match fair to say we witnessed a serious game of football yesterday. There could be some rotation for Tuesday after the effort put into that game.
The Gloomers, the Goners, the WOBs are groaning because they want AFC to spend other peoples money on over-priced players signed to Special Agent Mendes. They’ll blame the manager for this un fulfilment of their dreams, when it is the clubs policy which pre-dates the manager, which tells us a lot. Simple truth is that they want to be supporting Gazprom-upon-Fulham but they can’t admit it to themselves. They’re having trouble finding the rhythm of that goose-stepping march. But they’ve got the right colour (black shirts).
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< got the right colours
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You have my contribution right AA – there may be superficial changes but the core of football, the soul of football, remains the same.
I have to say that myTwitter feed is positive throughout games I watch at home. The result I guess of a judicious application of the Block function, with all snivelling defeatists, traitors, fifth columnists and Trotskyist scum dealt with quickly and painlessly at point of offence.
Allied to my command of technology to remove rubbish that irritates me is the fact that the last meaningful, important match Arsenal football club lost was on 6th April, which according to my calendar was about five and a half months ago.
Compare that record to our “rivals’ Chelsea, Citeh, L’pool, Spuds and I don’t even need to mention the Trafford Park clowns then we are setting very pretty.
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I see Mr Clattenburg is getting pelters from the normally same Pelligrini in the press this morning. I thought he had a decent game. I have no idea what Manuel is complaining about with our goals. i resist the urge to watch the replays ten times to see which one of us is right. It does not matter.
Mr C might have got his hand to his cards quicker with Citeh in the first half but the four cards they picked up was about right. No complaints about our cards. Swings and roundabouts.
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*sane
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I’ve kicked off a right kerfuffle on Twitter.
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@Andrew…For one moment there I thought about the 7-3 victory as “50 years ago” Oh, bloody hell, it was closer to 60 years ago. Seem to remember Cliffie Holton putting 4 past Bert Trautmann on his own. Like yesterday, a great game to watch but with a much more satisfying ending.
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4 cards Anicol? At the ground it was showing 4 cards for us and 1 for them?
Great posts by the way
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Thanks Pass
Regarding the cards if that was at the end of the game, that may have been cos Lampard, Fernandinho and Aguerro, who had picked up yellows and all been substituted were taken off the scoreboard – Zabaletta was the other one booked for Citeh.
We deffo got two yellows though, no way four.
No bad fouls in the game as far as I could see, all the bookings were for breaking up play, professional, so to speak.
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Bloody hell GF60 – Bert Trautmann !!
Checking the history books Trautmann had just finished before I started going, part of the Matthews, Lofthouse, Finney generation of players that had stepped aside in the early 60s.
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Nice summary George.
Marvellous reminiscence Anicoll. Good to meet yesterday, albeit you were a number of beers ahead by the time we met. Well done with the trotting to keep up on the dodgy knee.
Transient disappointment aside, having conceded the equaliser, which I think may not have happened had debuchy not been injured – I think that little break in play and clearly injured colleague did disrupt our lads’ concentration for a short spell, it was a great game between two clearly superior teams. Some wonderful talent on that pitch.
Seeing most if our bench warming up on the sidelines at varying points through the game it is impossible not to think ‘bloody hell! We’re good throught the squad’
When all all things are done and dusted for this current season I am confident, given the squad we have, that it will be safe and indeed an act of necessary mercy to put down any remaining doomers. To find things to be miserable about will be possible only of the most misguided, negative and masochistic mind, surely. UTA.
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Good review (s). Nice to hear Anicoll’s recollections of past and present.
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You my friend are spot on!!!! After all the reason we all started watching football is simply because we love watching football. And it was a fantastic game. Looks like Ozil is starting to be the latest target for the boo boys! Wish they would understand he has never been and never will be a 100 miles an hour ‘get in there’ player, he’s more sophisticated. Who do they want, Milner instead? Leave that stuff to Wilshere / Ramsey and the mindblowing Sanchez, Ozil is the orchestrator
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Two very enjoyable posts, thanks PG & Anicoll
I see us going from strength to strength…..two poor pieces of defending….you would think easily rectified….and we will win……
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Excellent duet by George and Andrew – 2 old geezers with experience and perspective. I wouldn’t swap it for the utter stupidity in talk-radio, twitter and commercial media. The very folks who are hysterically criticizing AFC’s failure to win the game did not give us a prayer pre-game. As usual they under-estimated our quality pre-game and thus have no credibility to criticize our performance post-game. One would expect them to be apologetic and gushing in praise at the level of our performance. Have they?
To the contrary, all these reactionary pundits and ex-pros can do is criticize Wenger’s attacking tactics clutching onto failed theories of two holding midfielders sitting in front of the back-four. Failing this, they scapegoat Ozil because he is not the physical defensive-minded monster Arsenal needs. Rubbish. George has taken them head on Twitter. Thank heavens we don’t have to put up with this stupidity at PA.
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Thanks for the perspective guys. Been disappointed since yesterday that we went from a superb victory to a draw. It was a great feeling when Alexis scored. However, it was a great game and we stood up. Eventhough the commentator was a dick wad throughout the match, after the whistle he said something like: “Two heavyweights, standing up and trading blow for blow, punch for punch….” It did feel like that. Fantastic atmosphere and a great game.
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It was an interesting contrast yesterday between the resources of the clubs available from the bench G145 and others.
For all the shrill whining about “Wenger shooda bought X and shooda bought Y” they may wish to ponder this;
We did not start with a 36 year old free transfer in the middle of the park who had to go off at HT because he was not able to keep up.
When Citeh’s much vaunted CDM the clogger Fernandhino had to be take off to avoid the inevitable second yellow he was about to receive they only had a left back, Kolarov, to take his place.
In contrast we had the Ox to bring on, Arteta in injury time, Santi was unused, Poldi was waiting. Poor old Sanogo – the kid missed out. That is a strong bench though.
And when disaster struck we had Chambers available and able to slot in like for like for Debuchy. And Chambers as we all know now is no mug.
If I were Sheikh Mansour I would want to know where on earth my cash had gone.
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How come there is no mention of Nacho’s terrific performance yesterday? The lad deserves much credit – he is always referred to as a average backup to Gibbo.
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Thanks for the explanation re the cards Anicol, that makes sense now. I lost track of the cards myself. I know Flamini got his customary one and Alexis one for taking his shirt off. Fernandinho was lucky to only get one.
Re the defensive lapse for the second city goal, I wonder if that was down to missing Olivier? I saw an interview with Kos where he talked about how important he is to our defence as well as the attack and I know Arsene has commented about how important his height is for us at set pieces as we are not a tall side. He might have made the difference there and I noticed yesterday that Danny Welbeck stays forward as most strikers would whereas Olivier always goes back to our penalty area when we face corners and free kicks. He’s clearly more than just a pretty face!
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I’ve mentioned it on Twitter Hob.
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Let’s be honest, Manure frontline looks pretty awesome…..and with Falcao on the bench……
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4:0. Well that was a stroll in the park for United vs a certifiably useless QPR. Unlike many gooners, I welcome a competitive United.Let them do a Liverpool this season and take points from the other big boys such as Chelsea and City. That can only be good for us.
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I said that months ago Shotta.
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basically it was a great game and we played very well, unfortunatley there are people who believe a football coment should be a critique and will only every find the negative what sad lives they lead. Not being able to enjoy the quality of what was served up must be very depressing for the doomers.
On Ozil and Aaron i came away from the ground thinking they were below par but watching the match again this morning makes you realize just how involved they were in everything and although lots didnt come of they are close to awsome.
I am 100% convinced the second goal was down to the injury, not just the set peice defending but also the way we lost the ball in midfield. It happened when we were on the up and the lull in proceedings gave them just the break they needed to regroup.
I happened to go to a soul do last night and a blue manc told me how much the ref favoured us (bloody northerners a George).
The injury was also a result of the amout of times milner went in late down the back of Debuchy and unpunished at that, refs need to get the hang of rotational fouling and punishing players when playing advantage or when the player just gets the ball away.
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Two lovely posts: thanks. Really enjoyed them. We were very nearly very good yesterday, and it was a proper, proper match. The key for us will be to learn to play regularly with that intensity – for that will take us to the next level.
United looked as you would expect them to look this afternoon, and it will be no bad thing for us if they do provide credible opposition for City and Chelsea. although it was easy enough for him I thought that Blind had a very good game, and that it was him who actually made all the difference.
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What a weekend! First, a great match, and then not one, but two good posts.
Too often, matches between the top teams promise much and deliver little. Yesterday’s match lived up to the hype. I am reminded of Ozil’s comment after he joined about football being played at Formula 1 speed. The comment above about two heavyweights was apt. If Arsenal can maintain – or improve on – that standard throughout the season, they will be challenging for trophies.
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PG, there is no doubt that Senderos, is a disgrace to the game of football!
A deliberate foul on the Mario fellow, who raced past Senderos, who very kindly tripped the galloping Italian, to take him out of the game play.
Even Alan Smith, a former Arsenal player, commented “foul play”.
It would seem that Aston Villa, have now improved on their routine fouling, to stop any late over-lapping runs by the opponents.
Well written, by two senior supporters of The Arsenal.
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Good article, both.
And it was a good game yesterday. Clattenbugger done his usual thing. Allowing $ity to kick away at Ars players – waving ‘play on’ following tackles that should’ve seen city players booked. (He did give one card following a play-on). But if he stopped play after nasty tackles it’d be more obvious that cards are given. The whole “keep the game flowing” thing is just an excuse to let off the team the ref favours.
And remember, Clattenbugger is the same ref who oversaw Theo’s long term injury, and a few years ago – Adfebayor’s stamp on v pussy’s face – and SO much more inbetween.
I thought QPR’s play this arvo was reminiscent of ‘lower placed teams taking it up the ass” for ManU – in order to be able to kick the shit out of Arsenal – when the time comes.
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Against ManU, how many fouls/dangerous tackles did QPR commit?
When playing Arsenal, how many fouls/dangerous tackles do QPR commit?
Re-watch the Cup Final for template of how Arsenal are treated by refs.
(Or watch yesterday’s match again).
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Fair point about the general shortness of the squad and I saw some anorak generated statistic the other week that said we had the lowest average height per player in the PL – you will be unsurprised to hear the tallest were Chelsea
I vaguely remember muttering on the need for TALL signings in the past
Having said that TALL is not actually the answer in as much as footballers need to be able to use their height. Peter Crouch for example is abominable in the air despite his height. One of the best central defenders I ever saw was Ayala of Valencia, a total short arse.
It is about the defender attacking the ball, not his height
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Some great posts and comments today.
People recollections of earlier times at The Arsenal reminded me of something I found trawling the net t’other day.
1919 Highbury (hope it’s not ©)
http://www.footballandthefirstworldwar.com/old-football-film/#bwg1/2
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Superb Dups
Dark clothing abounded
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Some lovely hats in the crowd (and plenty of smoke)
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Well well – 4-0 at home against QPR. That Van Gaal must be a genius.
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“One of the best central defenders I ever saw was Ayala of Valencia, a total short arse.”
Also Fabio Cannavaro – another short, but top notch defender.
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Watching a replay of our game with City I was reminded of the utter stupidity of ex-Stoke Danny Higginbottom who was the so-called expert alongside Peter Drury doing the ball by ball. Higginbottom after City’s 1st goal extolled all the various stereotypes that the army of Talk Sports pundits reserve for Arsenal. You would never believe we have been the most consistent of the top-4 teams in England for the past 17 years. Seizing his opportunity, this football neanderthal used his monopoly of the microphone to commence sledging and slating Ozil in particular, knowing full well from his TalkSpirt gig that there is a ready audience for this baiting of technicians like Ozil. To crown his stupidity, after we stormed back to a 2:1 lead he admitted that he thought we were “dead and buried” at half-time. That alone should disqualify him from another engagement as a football expert. Only a biased fool after watching the way we swarmed over City at the start could express such nonsense.
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aorb: “On Ozil and Aaron i came away from the ground thinking they were below par but watching the match again this morning makes you realize just how involved they were in everything and although lots didnt come of they are close to awsome.”
Ozil may not participate in many physical clashes, but he routinely covers more ground than most of his teammates. When our attack is humming along and you are not sure why, it is because Mesut the friendly ghost is busy doing his thing.
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Anicoll: “For all the shrill whining about “Wenger shooda bought X and shooda bought Y” they may wish to ponder this;
We did not start with a 36 year old free transfer in the middle of the park who had to go off at HT because he was not able to keep up.”
City are one muscle pull away from playing either Lamard or Milner in the middle of the park.
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Ah that is the thing Shotts – when anyone scores a goal against Arsenal the experts in the media, and many of the uber bloggers we come across, throw their hands in the air and accuse the guilty player or players of failing to do their job, or Arsene of failing to ‘do’ tactics, or failing to sign that oh so important central defensive midfield best that would have made all the difference to that particular incident.
In their world no team or player actually scores a good goal, well taken, cleverly thought out, a bit lucky on occasions even, against Arsenal. Never. Every goal has to have a charge attached to it and the player and manager prosecuted and shamed in front of the assembled court of Gooner opinion. Never, ever a shred of recognition for any opposition goal, always whining, handwringing and finger pointing.
Odd thing is on Saturday a Citeh team supposedly made up of highly competent defenders, with a manager who ‘does’ tactics, and a central defensive midfield best in Fernandinho that other central defensive midfield beasts run from, was carved open several times by us, and our goals were bloody great, both of them.
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Andy Nic: The comments on City’s defensive frailties were indeed so muted as to be inaudible to my ears.
I do have a worry about zonal marking though. Statistically it must be a better bet than man-to-man otherwise most sides would not adopt it, but it does seem to rely on American-football style blocking of offensive runs. Most corners sail harmlessly wide or into the hands of the keeper because the attackers are not allowed to get anywhere near them. It seems to be a tacit agreement among officials that they will not penalise these tactics – except, of course, when it involves an Arsenal defender. So it seems we are not able to mark zonally for fear of the penalty, but are too modern (or short) to adopt ball to ball.
All made worse of course because we did not buy a legion of tall defenders – or rather, to use the popular construction, because we failed to address our defensive shortcomings.
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Great points Andrew (7.11); it’s one reason the whole ‘debate’ has become so tedious; as you say, for every goal conceded and every point dropped, there now has to be an inquest, a guilty party and a damning verdict.
Some have their footballing outlook so gripped by this mental process that it will likely take place throughout the season irrespective of the club’s success or failure in any competition. In addition, they expect to be able to tear through our players and management without reproach and indeed complain bitterly when they themselves become the subject of criticism, such is the ironic absence of any semblance of self-awareness on their part.
Almost as irritating are those who sit on the fence smugly decrying those who defend the club, in the same breath as those who repetitiously jump all over everyone connected with it. I’m as happy to discuss the merits and demerits of the season with the next person but I fundamentally object to the character assassinations that accompany the remarks of those who pompously believe they know more about the players and the game than the full-time professionals entrusted by the club to deliver the very things they’ve been achieving all their working lives.
Twitter has a marvellous and well-worn ‘Mute’ button; PA has something very different with its ‘Like’ star and, quite frankly, on here, you are all stars.
The rest?
Give it a rest.
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ForeverHeady – you are quite right and I fear refereeing inconsistencies will only be truly addressed with the onset and adoption of video technology. The refs want it, many fans are calling for it and the integrity of the game demands it.
It’s on its way.
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Not often I would watch A monday night game on the box featuring Hull v West Ham but I admit I am intrigued to see Alex Song in the claret and blue tonight and what he can do for Fat Sam’s shufflers
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Great read PG. Good to see I’m not the only one whose glass is overflowing.
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Speculative thought for the day:
Özil’s “left wing” heatmap:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Wenger33179/status/511455877002317824/photo/1
I had guessed that he was shunted out there because he’d been partying in Vegas two weeks before his first game. And considering he came into this last game, his first game after pre-season off the Taylor induced knock during the Leicester game, that’s still a possibility.
Another option is a variant that’ll depend upon who is available. A couple of seasons ago we saw some games during the season with two fast wide players during when both Walcott and Gervais would start, or be on the pitch at the same time. That’ll be one option, when Chamberlain (still getting back to full fitness, in his own words), Walcott and Alexis are all available not forgetting Campbell and Gnabbers and hopefully one some occasions Akpom too. Another option, one we might be seeing at the moment, could be one that tries fit three of Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla and Ozil into the eleven, leaving one on rotation. Or something like that. Who knows.
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The comments on Giroud’s defensive work from set pieces are bang on. He is actually playing the same role Van Stapleton used to play from corners and free kicks, The one season wonder (at each club!) carried on that role in his first season up Norf. When he was often out for injury you’d almost always see one or two of Song and Diaby in to compensate.
I remember Shotta trying to explain to the groaning Groaners that you don’t need two super tall CBs when you can have two tall CMs in the mix, but such common sense got in the way of the perpetual WOBism of these poor demented souls.
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