I honestly cannot remember being so nervous before a Liverpool game. Not for ages. They’ve been in fine goalscoring form and we struggle to keep a clean sheet these days. I blame Mike. Ever since he put Wojciech Szczęsny in his fantasy league team we seem determined to leak goals win lose or draw. He will be all smiles when I return to work tomorrow though, thanking me for the points, which is a little insane but when you’re as unpopular at work as I am you have to take it where you can get it. The bizarre thing is of course that hidden behind the quite breathtaking talent that is Aaron Ramsey, Wojciech Szczęsny has actually been one of our very best players. The defence in front of him looks as settled as I can remember it and the midfield generally work their socks off to deny teams room in which to operate when they enter our airspace. And yet I was nervous that we would not keep them out yesterday. In my defence I kept my jitters to myself and didn’t pollute either this place or twitter with such pathetic weak kneed negativity. There was one other reason that I was concerned, not just for Mike’s fantasy league side but for our very real team as well.
Let us be perfectly honest we have been in a small dip, a minor depression, operating under a briefly passing black cloud of late and Liverpool have been in rampaging fine spirits. Our blip, as I sincerely hope it will prove to be, has been at once entirely understandable and at the same time extremely interesting. Understandable because we play in a fast hugely competitive league where players are usually only good for about four matches before they start playing in the red zone and given our injury situation we have had to wheel out the same old faces for just a few more games than has been desirable. The blip, or dip if you prefer coincided with some players returning to the side. I never expected such crucial personnel as Santi, Tomas and Mikel to simply glide back into their best pre injury form, who would predict such a thing? They didn’t of course, all players need time to find their groove, and with Mesut still adjusting to the frantic pace of the EPL and still finding the pushes and shoves shockingly under punished by lenient refereeing it was no surprise that we have struggled of late. This little period has been interesting though hasn’t it? Interesting and telling because we have somehow contrived to come through it five points clear domestically and joint top of our Champion’s League group. Oh and I ought to mention we’re shot of the pointless fixture clog of the league cup as well. Which I consider to be a result. How often in the past have we turned in below par performances, lost a couple of home games and been in such a powerful position?
Happy days to be an Arsenal fan.
Yesterday I was proved wrong. I had no real need to worry did I? I don’t need to tell you what happened of course. This isn’t the nineteen fifties where you need the written match report to tell you how the drama unfolded, but I shall at least share the moments which stood out for me.
Per’s ludicrous level of calm insouciance as he intercepted, dummied a Liverpool forward before instigating a counter attack. It was simply gorgeous.
Wojciech Szczęsny playing a one two with one of their player inside his area with the relaxed attitude of a man who meant to do it.
Giroud’s entire performance. Yes, yes I know he fluffed his lines in front of goal a couple of times but he made more dribbles than anyone else on the pitch, was a tower of strength in our goalmouth whenever they had a corner, he bothered and pestered their defence into errors all afternoon thus relieving the pressure off those behind him and he tracked back, closed down and generally made a nuisance of himself all day long. A fantastic, skill filled, gutsy, tireless performance.
Santi’s goal. What can you say? The guy scored and got the assist. Not many players can play a thunderous one two off the opposition woodwork and then crash home an unstoppable volley.
Aaron’s goal. I laughed out loud. How else could you react?
Koscielny’s performance. All of it. Suarez must still be smelling Kos’s deodorant on himself. The young man not supposed to be Arsenal quality continues to keep our club captain out of the team and world class strikers in his back pocket.
Arteta’s tackling. No individual moment stood out but the slight of foot with which he gently relieved his opponents of the ball was just a joy to behold.
Arteta late in the game making Stevie G look so very past it.
Arteta dragging/back heeling/side flicking the ball to Gibbs next to the corner flag while under pressure.
Arteta’s hair.
Tomáš Rosický spinning, running, injecting urgency wherever he went and looking like a man ten years younger. Long may it last.
There were many other moments – I’m sure you have your favourites, but before I go I have to credit Liverpool for making a game of it, they had their chances and on another day might well have got something out of the match. However their strength is their attack and we neutered that strength for the most part by keeping the ball in their half. Can you imagine how good we will be with Podolski and Theo back in the side? It is a terrifying prospect. Oh and while I’m gazing with my red tinted spectacles into the future how about when Mesut Özil catches up to the speed of the EPL? It’s like we have this unexploded bomb ticking away in our midfield. He already has an understanding with Aaron, he just needs to adjust to the crazy pace of the English game, and, well, boom!
Positively Arsenal 
Well, Barnes article is not that good, some inconsistencies, politically sincere but a bit loose. But I took it in a positive light in that he is, I suppose, not an academic or civil rights guy, just a footballer. I liked that he takes some position whether specific points are misguided (eg top-tier coaches). It is, as DementedDiode says a matter of standing up, face to face, or in print. He is saying, I believe that the football authorities would pretend, sweep it under the carpet, being ever so “correct”.
Where does Arsenal fit? I am proud that there is such respect in Africa that Arsenal set an example or two for advancing black/African footballers in UK, upsetting some and setting one or two interesting precedents (under Wenger), all based on merit; a whole lot of people started supporting Arsenal in the Kanu years, and some earlier in the Rocky & Co years. Also Viv Anderson made a bit of history, although he left for Yoo.
So Arsenal is associated in the public eye in much of Africa with non-racialism, an old fashioned term I like. Some forget in 90s that was still not so common, and back in the late 70s even Highbury sang “Liam Brady is white, is white” (I was there, my mates saying “don’t worry”). God knows what Stoke et al might have been singing.
As for Obama, it’s a moot point, fraught with contradiction, but he has made history.
Didn’t really want to start a debate, just thought the article stood out from the dross.
My own take is hardline by the way. Somebody makes some monkey comment, I am perfectly capable of returning the courtesy 10-fold, but that is our history here.
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I agree that footballers are not the most affected by racism. I also see how making somebody shut up for a while is not going to make them a good person. You will probably make that person a discreet racist. Real racism is going on everywhere around the world and it is easier to ignore it. However, I see a positive side to an issue being made out of a player being abused. It sends a loud message that it is not ok to abuse a person for their skin colour. There must be atleast a few kids who hear the story and feel that what happened to the player was wrong.
I agree with Zimpaul that genuine change in attitudes towards racism comes from education. The value of it is not recognised as much as it should be. Deviating, I think that education will be the ultimate tool to actually develop countries like the one I live in. As long as that doesnt happen, leeches will keep sucking blood. Having said that, you guys in the UK have one of the best education systems, healthcare and other fantastic infrastucture for a good basic foundation for life, but the greed of some has been ruining all of that. So maybe greed will always find a way to manifest itself. The good people just have to fight it.
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DementedDiode, you have a nice attitude to those fuckers. I see north eastern people where I live and they are very marginalised. It seems to be the same everywhere in India. It is very sad. In a similar manner, a majority of Indians living in the UK have become very insular, having their own community, locality and even religious schools! It is sad that multiculturalism has not worked. I can see that not everyone can be multicultural, but having some degree of integration would be good for everybody.
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Jack,Gibbs and Flamini are out.Theo might make Sunday.
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Pedantic, the most important miss for Sunday would be Gibbs.
That is not to say the other two are not important as well, but I think we have better cover for them, which implies, correctly that I am not convinced about Monreal, and I also think Gibbs has come on in leaps and bounds this season.
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Theo, the supersonic sub?
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It’s as DKG wrote above, John Barnes was trying to say a lot.
He was on talkshite this morning explaining himself a little better: to Alan Brazil no less he asked, ‘do you see yourself as English/Welsh/Scottish etc. or White or both?’ After some genuinly confused grunting and groaning from Brazil he answered that he saw himself as Scottish and JB simply explained that he did not have the same option. It was a great question on a complex and difficult topic and it provoked AB into understanding what was being said a little better. Alan Brazil and friends are the kind of chaps who forget why balls are a lot lighter now then when they were made from pigs bladders. This evolution which they grew up with was adopted to protect players heads from consecutive concussive injuries which led to players being punch drunk in later life, or worse, and this occured on the advice of doctors back in the day. But these former pros are the type of gritty warriors who forgot their own childhood on the advice of their producers and advertisers and spent yesterday complaining about effeminate and unmanly calls for players who are knocked out to be taken of the pitch*. So I think JB did quite well there.
*Y’see, only the ignorant observer of AFC would conclude that AFC have ‘more’ injuries due to incompetence. There is plenty, as in a lot, of evidence that allows us to conclude that AFC have a medical/physio team who do their job, are open to new ideas, and they get listened to by the coaches, when compared to other teams: e.g. Flamini, was he asked to carry on playing when he was trying to pass with two footballs? No!
My brother works in the field and he thinks football physios are or were a little behind the curve. But at least AFC are moving forwards whilst say ManIOU under Gollum have ditched the treatment room, the traditional Chinese stuff (even Fat Sam dabbles in acupuncture these days), the high tech stuff, all of it, and gone back into the cave. Bad luck Van Judas. Lets hope the Gunners cheer him up on the weekend.
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I have followed Obama’s political career as closely as I follow Arsenal and I can safely say that he’d call bullshit on Barnes for making that comment about raising out of blackness. Why? Because black pundits are using data that is twenty years past its due date and they focus on the negative rather than on all the good things going on in black culture at present.
Now, I’m not saying that racism doesn’t exist, far from it. What I’m saying is the narrative about poor black people being kept down by the man, is not as realistic as it once was. Things have gotten better in some respects and worse in others, but we wouldn’t know that if we were to listen to the likes of John Barnes. There are many black academics who are starting to prove that this narrative is actually asphyxiating progress rather than helping it along.
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I would love to know why the injuries that we suffer appear to affect our flank players so much more often – Gnabry, Theo, Poldi, the Ox, now Gibbs
An Arsenal winger or full back appears to have the life expectancy of a kamikaze pilot finding the sake has run out
Fitness and training, medical treatment, the hardness or softness of pitches, footwear ………the gypsy curse ?????
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I am convinced by Monreal,Gibbs has just been outstanding.Natcho Man will be fine.
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Anicoll
I blame those wretched blade boots.
Fine if all you do is run in straight lines, but try to make a sharp turn in those and the feet are stuck going one way while the body is turning in another direction.
I’m not too impressed by the long queues into the treatment room at Arsenal year after year. Has anyone in authority at the club done a quality audit of what is going on?
In comparison to other big clubs, we do have more than our fair share of fitness problems.
Also, and never forget this – refs let the bastards kick the shit out of us for fun.
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PG
TV5 can cover for Nacho down the left side if needed.
With Jack and Flamini out, we don’t have much senior cover for midfield if anyone picks up a knock.
…..Arteta…….Ramsey
Ozil…….Rosicky……..Cazorla
………….Giroud
TV5, Jenks, Gnarby, Hayden, Eisfeld on the bench. (from the training photos).
I’d love to see Theo and/or Poldi on Sunday – but I would be disgusted to see them subsequently called up for this stupid international break.
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Toward the end of 2011/2012 we opened a state of the art health and fitness centre at Colney to try and overcome what had been several years when we suffered a lot of players missing for long periods through injury and that had been very much the picture since the move from Highbury. I don’t think it is a lack of resources or poor facilities DC.
My impression last season that it was working well and in the run in from March 2013 we had almost everyone fit and available and the results reflected that consistency.
Since the Summer though we seem to be back to a consistent pattern of injury and more aggravating is the standard “we expect him to be out three weeks” – Six weeks later he is still out
Hopefully it is a bit of a bad patch that will resolve itself in the New Year and allow another strong run to the tape
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I trust MONRAEL. I think he is very smart and mature player. He will do fine. I just wish we had one of our speedsters on the right and left wing. would have kept Dortmund honest .
Still , in very optimistic with getting a result tomorrow. Just like I was last year before the second Bayern game. We were never so outplayed by them in the first game as some people claimed.
We gave the a good game on both occasions. And I believe Marseille is due a point or more against Napoli. Hopefully Napoli will drop points and we get a famous win in Germany.
C O Y G
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Interesting point Gains, and it is becoming by degrees more about class and slightly less about race in the States as time goes by. I got quite a wake up call a few years back visiting my elderly friend in Atlanta, who stays in an (coincidentally 90%-black) extremely affluent suburb. He is from poor origins, poorer than mine in Africa, nothing more than a wooden shack, no plumbing or electricity, made good in his professional life, and explained matter-of-factly that affluent African-Americans in some parts of the South, mainly Atlanta-side are getting close to “taking control”, politically and economically, unlike, as he put it, “our northern cousins”. But then as he pointed out it remains a simple fact that one in three African Americans will go to prison in their lifetime, a consequence of poverty and racism, drugs, broken homes and social dysfunction. The most interesting part was meeting the (black) police chief in his hometown (Griffin GA) who had some funny/sad tales “as a boy I truly could not risk walking on the wrong side of the street for fear of police, and look at me now, I am the fuckin police chief, and I tell you what, this is my town and walk where I want!”.
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Well, back to football, hey and apologies again for the JB side-road. Monreal, have no fear, Spanish national left back, composed and superb in defence and attack; and he’s looking damn good at the moment in glimpses we’ve seen. He’s a little unlucky Gibbs has hit form, he could very easily have been first choice. Arteta playing at the top of his game, you hardly noticed Flamini wasn’t about. Theo as a super-sub, and I assume Serge is back. We are spoilt for choice.
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Anicoll5
@627.. so true what you say. Very frustrating but I think DC is right also that refs. Let other teams playing against us get away with murder. Last couple of years it has gotten a little better but before that for at least five or six years it was green lighted ARSENAL players getting injured sometimes with career threatening results. I think the COLNEY CREW is doing a bangup job with our team but they can’t work miracles all the time. The speed at which the GUNNERS play football is also a contributing factor.
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as a concept i think barnes is right…society and media try to place more attention and are more outraged to a footballer being racially abused in a football match than the real and actual racial / prejudiced acts of denying people equal opportunities to work, education, health etc..
however the part of he says that yaya shouldnt be bothered is off target since this is professional football and every footballer shoudl be treated with respect when exercising his profession and making his living.
as for the race/intelligence debate …there is a “theory” that suggests white are smarter than black and asians smarter than both but how do you scientifically or genticaly prove that? i accept that differences in cultural backgrounds will result in various cognitive abilities among peoples groups but i think its more to do with climate and environment that will defy a tribe’s/nation’s intelligence ….if youre close to the sun you dont have to bust your brains to develop heating technology ….equaly the one in the north freezing his arse off trying to find ways to heat himself or to transport himself will eat whatever he finds and die of cancer unlike the sunny people who will develop a better quality of living and wiser intellect with regards to health….. then again i have not seen a white tyson nor a white michael jordan and likewise i havent seen a black shummacher or a black zidanne…. rule? coincidence? who knows? it depends on whwther you are the type who likes to classify people or not really…..and thats what real racism is in my book…categorising people …whether its colour religion weight height education or social status its the same to me….evil small shallow spiteful behaviour..we are in the year 2013 and it demands we get serious for once as humans and do better than categorising eachother.
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Ok. Who is Watching what today?
I’ll opt for the juve/ Madrid game.
Let us know about the other games happenings. Porfavor
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It’s all right – Webb is in charge
Anything could happen
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One nil juve. Penalty. Vidal.
Not much to write home about. Dull game..
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Can’t wait for our game…
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2-2 game on. bale and Ronaldo scoring
Manure hitting post twice and chicharony missed a sitter in front of goal.
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Same old Ashley Young…
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SAVED!! Very good. Come on Vela’s team!
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But honestly, that dive by Ashley Young… he is worse than Suarez, Bale and everyone else put together. It’s probably the only part of his game where he excels at because at everything else he is decidedly average. We will have to look out for him on the weekend. Away at OT, I am sure he is going to try his best to “win” a penalty or three.
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Juve Madrid not a spectacle – short bouts of excellent football interspersed with long periods of both sides tracking each other, looking for an opening, avoiding the risk
Casillas probably the man of the match with 3-4 very very good saves
Juve could have done with a bit more passion
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Manure now face Leverkusen away,
and then Shakhtar at home ( who will be on 8 points – same as manure).
Brown trousers time for the red scum.
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Evil
Tom Daly must be coaching Ashley Young.
I find it reprehensible, and a piece of utter bollix that Moyes says publically he does not like to see any of the scum diving, whereas all evidence suggests the red shits depend on it for a living.
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Anicoll 6:27pm
Point well made.
However I’ve also noticed we have shipped over some of the injury cases to the German team medics this season.
I ain’t complaining about that, it seems a very good idea.
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Hunter 6:49pm
That’s not your finest contribution here. It’s better not to dissect it line by line.
but on the lighter side:
“and likewise i havent seen a black zidanne”
two words – David Rocastle
1967-2001.
Forever a Gunner.
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ZimPaul
I had a lot of respect for Barnes as a footballer and as a person back in the day for the player he was and the shit he had to put up with.
Pity he is a twat of a pundit, but you can’t have everything eh?
Arsenal had a whole bunch of young black english players in the 80’s but the strange this was, i didn’t even notice their colour (in the sense that it was a non-issue), all I thought was these were great gunners.
I don’t remember it being even a passremarkable thing in the media at the time either.
Isn’t that the way it should be?
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Holy fucking shit
http://footballtweet.lockerdome.com/media/110249927
that is an un fucking believable level of cheating from manu.
except it is of course so believable. JvC missed the peno.
karma.
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Zimpaul: “But then as he pointed out it remains a simple fact that one in three African Americans will go to prison in their lifetime, a consequence of poverty and racism, drugs, broken homes and social dysfunction. The most interesting part was meeting the (black) police chief in his hometown (Griffin GA) who had some funny/sad tales “as a boy I truly could not risk walking on the wrong side of the street for fear of police, and look at me now, I am the fuckin police chief, and I tell you what, this is my town and walk where I want!”.
They’re going to jail because they are worth more to some behind bars than they are as productive citizens. Plain and simple. Privatize jails and you have to fill them up, don’t you? This is slowly beginning to change, however, because they’ve ran out of black and latino kids to put in cages, so they’ve set their sights on white kids. But the damage is done. Thanks to their reactionary mindset and their attrition fetishes, they’ve ruined an entire generation of perfectly good people.
As far as blacks in the north vs blacks in the south, Cory Booker, Deval Patrick and Barack Obama all hail from northern states. Atlanta is an awesome city, but the south is a long way away from seeing blacks and other minorities as human beings. I think my kids are going to see a color blind America, not me.
My dad looks like Ben Kingsley’s Ghandi and my mom is white. In 1986 in Miami Florida, we were in the car and some white guys in a pick up truck almost ran us off the road because they were pissed that my mom was with a nigger. In fucking Miami, if you can believe that.
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Looks like maybe JETHRO might be available for us tomorrow and mats Hummel’s is a big doubt for them. Hamstring injury.
C O Y G
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Double Can, it’s a good point, and yes Barnes had that great left foot and I would say fairly, a very intelligent footballer. Otherwise, I know very little about the bloke. As for the young black gunners of the 80s, I remember (vaguely, from a distance) too; and it’s very nice to hear that it was hardly an issue on the terraces so to speak. And remember that extraordinary (one hit wonder, but still) Wimbledon side. One might then say in another way, it would be valid, that football has done a lot for breaking ridiculous colour barriers of an earlier generation. And maybe that is what should be celebrated.
Racism, of course, is essentially economic not psychological.
Gains, good points and yes I am aware. My friend of course was talking only of the affluent, increasingly powerful black community in Atlanta, now flexing its muscles.
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Double Canister
November 5, 2013 at 11:41 pm
on the contrary my friend…i despise categorisation and acts of prejudice and it includes racial categorisation, social, religious, or even features/characteristics style categorisation….
that media have chosen football ( out of all sports) as the moral conductor of society is neither wise nor is it my fault…..
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if you havent realised our players have also suffered from prejudice here and still do..it wasnt the colour of their skin but the colour of their replica and the nationality of their manager….
toure gets upset because of people abusing him with words while rmasey diabby and eduardo got their legs smashed because of the prejudice @lets kick them foriegners@..is that not racist?
why should i care more about yaya and not edu or abu or aaron who got physically hurt because of equal mentality of categorisation? “wengers poof foreign kids…lets kick em”
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eboue suffered more from our fans than yaya from cska fans…… yes it is annoying to listen to idiots mocking you cause of skin colour but its as equally nasty to taunt a fat bloke/girl when ordering 7 bigmacs …or laughing at a short fella in the pub…
if yaya was denied his right to make is living via football then yes lets talk about racism all day but nastiness coming from sections of the stands ?
what is worse ? really? being called a monkey or a paedophile? ever seen wenger give value to nastiness by replying to it? never…….
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Without any doubt the lack of protection from at best incompetent refs has been a cause of excessive injuries. That is not a debate.
Also as John Cross said on the clock end, as many if not most have thought, a slightly smaller squad has also probably been a factor. Four consective intense high level games every three days and a player could then be into the ‘red zone’ as Steww wrote above.
In the future the enlightened TV wallah’s could impose a horror calendar with no rest at all, forcing teams at all levels international and national to rotate even when they don’t want to, like in cricket.
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football is not going to save society from racism….in that i agree 100% with barnes…. football is nasty business full of cunts and cut throat competitions…..thats why arsenal means so much ..cause though it follows the industry practices to survive as a business it does it in a style of utter respect for everyone involved mainly due to wenger’s principles.
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“what is worse ? really? being called a monkey or a paedophile? ever seen wenger give value to nastiness by replying to it? never…….”
Shutting Trafford Park for a month next time that paedo shite comes out might educate them a little Hunter
Better still two months
I sense they would get the idea eventually
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Do I want to sit in a stadium or watching on the box listening to monkey noises or paedo abuse directed at anyone?
No I don’t –
Is that cos I am black or a paedo, or the target of the paedo abuse is associated with Arsenal ?
No it isn’t
There is a line – they crossed it
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no of course you dont . no sane person does. but there are far worse lines being crossed in society daily than a footballer called a monkey on a wednsday night…i think thast what barnes i saying..
if our sensitivities are limited only to when we hear nastiness in stadiums then weve got it wrong as a society…..
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And if we say it does not matter that there is monkey or paedo abuse in a football stadium because they are millionaires and there is a BIG PICTURE in the real world then I also think as a society we have got it wrong.
Seems to me football should at least attempt to deal with problems that crop up in football stadiums and on pitches
The notion Barnes promotes that football authorities should somehow attack the wider problem of racial disadvantage, lack of educational and vocational opportunity and genera poverty seems very very very far fetched
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anicoll
maybe if sol campbell had said what barn said you wouldnt have reacted the same manner.
he made many valid points but unfortunately you have negleted those points only to focus on a flaw. he is a footballer and not shakespear.
all he is trying to say is if the elite cant bring themselves into seeing everyone equally, how do you expect some idiots, unemployed and drunks in the stadium to do better. i have said it before that the attitude of those in authority clearly shows they are racist. how many black referee do you see around? how many black coaches? what makes southgate more qualified to manage england than sol campbell? what makes nevile better than numerous black guys who played the game. they only see them black as athelets and nothing more.
i said something sometime in august last year when we were still playing at ‘end of an era.com’ in defense of arteta. everyone was talking about big black no nonsense player to play the holding role. i said holding role is not only made for the blacks. the blackman can play creative and elegant football. so also whiteman like arteta can handle the place better than m’vila , tiote or diame.
sadly when you think about black players what comes to you mind is defensive and rugged football. but for every tiote, there is okocha and for every drogba there is kanu and eto’o. i struggle to see a more elegant youngster in our rank than zelalem.
it will be so unfortunate that when a player like bacary sagna retires, their is every posibility that his wealth of experience will be wasted just because he is black. he is the finest right back i ever know.
another thing i notice is that many people that are rAcist dont even know they are!
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im not sure he is saying that football authorities should solve society;s problems i read it as society itself being the one who deals with them problems and how ridiculous we are to feel more concerned about a footballer getting racially abused on a football pitch than the actual racial discriminations taking place in everyday life…
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lets clear two things yeah…..racial abuse and racial discrimination are two different things… yes?
one involves nasty words/behaviour..the other is total injustice and inhumane.
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On the footy, it would be something if Rosicky got the the winning goal tonight.
I know he got the crucial third goal in the first 5pur2s saga but a goal in Dortmund would be something else. The football gods do owe him, I hope he gets his reward.
– Credit to commentators when deserved: the quote that went a little like this “Rosicky keeps going and gets his reward” was a great.
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a friend of mine told me of his friend in greece. he went into a shop and picked up an article, he asked the guy at the shop the price but since they cant agree on a fair price, his friend dropped it and left. as he was about leaving, the guy at the shop gave him a cetain look and the took the article and threw it into the bin.
you have to be in their position to be able to analyse things better.
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